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Why We Don’t Wear Makeup | Shawties Podcast Ep. 4

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Sinead: Hey guys, welcome back to the Shawties Podcast with your hosts Sinead and also my host 

 

Shasha: Shasha 

 

Shalom: Shalom 

 

Sinead: my sisters 

 

Shalom: now yeah yeah guys it’s been a while since we’ve been on here a little bit. It’s been about a month or so 

 

Sinead: oh has it? 

 

Shalom: Yes, I think so 

 

Sinead: No while things have been busy you know right now we just recently launched our family talk show onyx family dinner, which is on the Onyx family YouTube channel. So that was a big project that we were so excited to release

 

Shasha: and in the first episode just came out today with Emmy award-winning Emmanuel Acho he played for the Philadelphia Eagles back in NFL 

 

Sinead: and also he just won an Emmy as well. Yeah, 

 

Shasha: and now he’s making he’s really popular for a series of uncomfortable conversations with a black man about race or something 

 

Sinead: about a comfortable conversation with a black man about anything really

 

Shasha: Yeah,

 

Sinead: That’s what the topic is 

 

Shasha: so yeah, 

 

Shalom: yes. So, girls, we’re gonna have an uncomfortable conversation with each other right now. 

 

Sinead: Yeah,

 

Shalom: we’re gonna discuss a range of topics.

 

Shasha: Today we’re talking about makeup. 

 

Shalom: Are we talking about makeup? 

 

Sinead: We’re talking about 

 

Shasha: beauty, 

 

Shalom and Sinead: not just beauty. 

 

Shasha: what do you mean not just beauty, What else? 

 

Shalom: I mean that those are fun topics, but I’m just saying about being comfortable in your own skin. 

 

Sinead: Yes.

 

Shalom:  And you know, not needing the maybe like discussing the fact how makeup changes you. 

 

Shasha: Okay, so when was the first time I just want to ask you guys what was the first time you ever wore makeup? Do you remember?

 

Sinead: Do I remember? Okay, what counts as makeup? Like 

 

Shasha: anything? 

 

Sinead: Anything? Like lip gloss? 

 

Shasha: Yeah, I remember the first time I was turning eight, and we were going into a spa-like a spa thing. And we got lip gloss on we got medi pedis and it was just like the first time ever was did up and if you look at the photos I think we do have a photo not sure but we do you can see we were feeling ourselves looking extra now. 

 

Sinead: Oh, yeah. 

 

Shalom: Yeah, I’m not gonna lie 

 

Sinead: I don’t know why my first thought even though that this is the first time I remember getting wearing this lip balm. I was about 13/14 wearing this lip balm and it was slightly colored. I mean, when I say slightly covered colored. I mean it was very slightly pink and my mom immediately notice and said go wipe that off. 

 

Shasha: How old are you?

 

Sinead:  I was like 13/14 

 

Shasha: Are you sure?

 

Sinead: I am positive

 

Shalom: I remember 

 

Shasha: Well I just wanna let you guys know, context back then. We were pastor’s Kids 

 

Sinead: Yeah. 

 

Shasha: And even we couldn’t really dress heavy.

 

Shalom:  Well, here’s the thing. We just weren’t allowed in our households you know, we were very conservative. We were

 

Shasha: We’re pastor’s family. 

 

Sinead: Yeah, you have just had a certain appearance of how we were looking. 

 

Shalom: Okay, so my first experiment with makeup I was in grandma’s house right and so I went inside her bathroom and I saw this huge counter full of makeup and so I was like, oh, I’m gonna experiment making sure no one looked so I just grabbed I didn’t notice at the time mascara. I just didn’t even put on my eyelashes I put on my eyebrows because I thought it was gonna give me a little arch you know? 

 

Sinead: Yeah,

 

Shalom: some people use it for their arches right?

 

Sinead: no mascara is not built for the eyebrows it’s just not.

 

Shalom: You see guys. Like I’m so like I’ve never like I’m 22 right now and I don’t wear makeup like I don’t wear makeup every day well for a few reasons why just because the way I was raised and because of lack of interest and to lack of experiment not that I can get into it I could if I wanted to but I don’t know it’s just not something that I necessarily desire to wear makeup every single day 

 

Shasha: Yeah,

 

Shalom: it’s so crazy when I see kids out there they just like every time they go to school they’re like put a full flush of makeup on I’m like whoa, is this like

 

Sinead:  it’s definitely time-consuming, you have to wake up earlier to do it. You have to spend some time you got to watch tutorials.\

 

Shasha: I know some people take it as a hobby but it looks like a job to me. 

 

Sinead: But the thing is the people that see it as a hobby and they’re like genuinely fun to them. I’m like good for you. It’s like an art to them you know?

 

Shalom: exactly!

 

Sinead: Like, man that’s great.

 

Shalom: Oh yeah. Oh yeah, definitely. But do 

 

Shasha: I thought you like to wear makeup?

 

Sinead: the thing is, I don’t like to wear it daily but I do have fun and I do wear it so if I’m doing a music video I can have a little fun with them some glitter whatever on the eyelids and blending and stuff. I have a little fun with that when I’m doing it for that I just on the daily I’m not that kind of person to wear it on the daily

 

Shalom: now let me ask you a question. Do you think makeup really just changes you physically?

 

Sinead: like how you look? Well, I think that the more you wear it, it could probably clog up your pores and stuff like that and probably give you a little more skin issues if you’re not taking care of your skin because like some people they’re really good at taking care of their skin 

 

Shalom: right 

 

Sinead: masks and stuff to replenish their face and then be the makeup and all that

 

Shasha: I just buy wipes from Walmart just wipe them off. I don’t do any kind of skincare.

 

Sinead: If you will just do that you’re gonna have skin issues because you’re not fully cleaning it and fully rejuvenating your skin afterward. 

 

Shalom: Yeah, like buying products that will help Like skincare, like invest in yourself in skincare, 

 

Sinead: yeah if you’re gonna invest in makeup, you gotta invest in the skincare part, or else you might ruin your skin because makeup has a lot of chemicals and it’s just overall it’s like it’s putting a bunch of chemicals on your skin, which absorbs all of it, which goes into your body. So I always considered that whenever I wear makeup, you know?

 

Shasha: Oh my goodness. Yeah, I remember we were just having a photoshoot. I think last year.

 

Sinead: not last year. It’s like two years ago. 

 

Shasha: Yeah, two years ago when we had all lined up in front of. 

 

Sinead: oh  2 years ago, Now I know we’re talking about it, it was here, right? 

 

Shasha: Yeah, Well there’s another photoshoot, we all lined up on the table and she was showing us how to put on makeup for the photoshoot because none of us knew exactly how to put it on properly.

 

Shalom: I still don’t know. 

 

Shasha: So we all lined up on the table as following this tutorial. And it was just the funniest thing 

 

Sinead: it was, that was very interesting. Like we really generally don’t know how to apply. Well, I think that now I’ve learned because I had a little practice.

 

Shalom: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 

 

Sinead: And then oh, imagine if you guys had to do your makeup for Onyx family dinner. 

 

Shalom and Shasha: Oh my goodness. 

 

Shalom: I couldn’t I wouldn’t. I know that the lighting would just like catching my bad side. Just like sometimes I please. Like I literally forget my neck sometimes. And it’s like, 

 

Shasha: Oh my God. 

 

Sinead: It’ll be like the makeup kind of stops at the chin. Instead of going down to the neck.

 

Shalom: And I don’t even go up probably and sometimes I don’t even go all the way on my foreheads. Just like 

 

Sinead: yeah, so that’s an issue.

 

Shalom: Exactly. So I actually respect those who actually have they do a really great job with their makeup. So it’s like props to you. But I want to ask you guys how you like is too young for makeup. 

 

Sinead: How young is too young for makeup? I just feel like not necessary 

 

Shasha: because you already have good skin as a kid. 

 

Sinead: Oh no. Not everyone have good skin as a kid but I feel like that when you’re at those ages, it should be more emphasized to take care do skincare more than covering it up with makeup? 

 

Shasha: That’s a good point. 

 

Sinead: I think there should be more effort in instead of doing tutorials and learning how to do makeup, maybe tutorials and like okay, find your skin your best skin regimen. Okay, what helps dry skin one, 

 

Shalom: right.

 

Sinead: finding those kinds of fixes is better. Now some people don’t even wear makeup to cover up skin issues but they wear it because they think that they don’t look good enough. And then I would say to that emphasize self-love before jumping to make it.

 

Shalom: It’s interesting. You said skin issues right? Because a lot of people have what do you call it? like that sort of acne disease? like acute. What does it call?

 

Shasha: acne? I think.

 

Sinead: I think there’s another word for it.

 

Shalom: I know 

 

Sinead: not that acne but 

 

Shalom: no, no. Yeah, there’s something there’s another word to it. But yeah, they have that type of disease. And also they have like another sort of disease like I can’t remember. But yeah, the acne thing. Like do you think that in terms of acne? Do you think that it’s best when someone you know can cover up or do you think that it’s more like 

 

Sinead: man, the thing is that you can’t judge? You can’t really judge per se someone who does not feel comfortable because they have really really bad skin issues.

 

Shasha: Yeah, I’ve never been there before 

 

Shalom: or burns. Like that’s what I meant to say.

 

Sinead: oh burns

 

Shasha: okay, That’s a special situation we’re not talking about.

 

Sinead: yeah  I’m not gonna tell a burn victim. Oh, don’t wear makeup you need to self-love yourself. 

 

Shasha: Okay, we’re talking about people who just have skin issues. That’s it like nothing more horrific happened

 

Sinead: no but even though those people might not feel self-confident no one’s getting but I would say that you still got to learn to love yourself with and without the makeup. You still got to learn to love yourself because it’s going to spread to other things if you’re not loving yourself in certain areas.

 

Shasha: Oh, that was deep. 

 

Sinead: Yeah,

 

Shasha: that was deep. 

 

Shalom: Oh Cystic acne.

 

Shasha: Cystic acne. Yeah, I’ve seen that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. 

 

Shalom: I mean, yeah, there’s definitely there are some special cases where you know, maybe a person would really want to use makeup for certain things, but if you’re like already Okay, right. And your skin is already clear.

 

Sinead: And people still wear makeup because they want to look older or they want to look more mature or

 

Shalom: but what makes you mature? Is it the lip gloss that makes you mature? Is it the arches of the eyebrow? Or is it the actual condition and like

 

Sinead: and that’s the thing because some people can’t be like all makeup is bad or all makeup makes you look more mature because some people will only do a lip gloss like I mostly I wear lip gloss. That’s basically all I do. 

 

Shasha: I don’t think that counts as makeup. 

 

Shalom and Sinead: What really?

 

Sinead: what do some people do?

 

Shasha: I think lipstick is I think lipstick counts as make up

 

Sinead: some people wear only eyeliner, they literally only wear eyeliner. And it’s not even a lot of eyeliner but only a little bit of mascara. They only wear mascara but that’s still makeup but it’s like they’re like oh I want to I think that makeup when it pops out a certain feature like you’re like oh I’m targeting certain features. I’m not necessarily changing myself, but I’m emphasizing that’s the thing. There are two things that makeup can do it can emphasize features you already have. So people that wear mascara might be like oh, I want to show off my eyes more and like put make it emphasize what color my eyes or whatever, then some people want to change how they look and they’re literally some people will change like skin tone on their face, 

 

Shalom: right 

 

Sinead: face structure because they feel like their nose is too big or their chin is too square or their forehead is too high. Like all that kind of stuff. And when it gets to that point, it’s like you need to practice self-love and more than change how you look

 

Shalom: right

 

Sinead: Appreciate it. 

 

Shasha: Have you guys ever heard of permanent makeup surgery?

 

Sinead: Permanent make up surgery

 

Shalom: what is that?

 

Shasha: basically it can make it look like you have permanent makeup on. So permanent makeup surgery. It’s like tattoos, a needle basically pigments to where you want it to go. It’s like 

 

Sinead: What?

 

Shasha: it was it’s actually heard of that before.

 

Sinead: okay, listen  What if you said hey, I want to permanently look like I have makeup on right now like okay, we’ll call you on your eyeshadow to be and you’re like oh blue, blue today what? It just does not match all your outfits now from then on you will always have blue eyeshadow. 

 

Shalom: wait, so does that make it look like? Do you have always have like an arch sort of eyebrows?

 

Shasha: yeah basically anything I think they make their lips pinker you can have 

 

Sinead: permanent blush. 

 

Shasha: Yes. Stuff like that. It’s kind of like tattoos. 

 

Sinead: That’s that’s kind of extreme to me. That’s that kind of No, it is extreme to me. Like I’m just I don’t know. 

 

Shasha: Okay, but I for me, I would actually nonetheless, I would actually wear makeup more if I did not have to do the work of putting it on if they can create a mask Elon Musk create a mask. I mean, he’s an inventor, if he invented something where you could put it on your face, and then just like, peel it off and make it was on you. 

 

Sinead: But that’s not permanent, that’s not permanent. So 

 

Shasha: no, no, no I just want to like if I just want one some, one day.

 

Sinead: Are you saying that the only thing stopping you from wearing makeup is the fact that you just don’t know how to do it.

 

Shasha: Yeah

 

Sinead: so you would wear makeup every day. If you could do it easily. 

 

Shasha: Yeah, why not? 

 

Sinead: Sorry. Wait, are you saying that you’re not satisfied with the way you look? Or just for the fun of it? 

 

Shasha: Just for the fun of it.

 

Sinead: Okay, okay, that’s what I’m wondering why.

 

Shalom: Wait Shasha, what if someone said the same thing about the exercise you love to exercise, right? You like the process of it you like 

 

Shasha: wait, what? No way, wait wait, But exercise is not

 

Sinead: No, Listen, someone’s like, Man, I can just slap some abs on, slaps some muscles on. 

 

Shasha: That’s body image issues. 

 

Sinead: No, actually, your face is body image, It is part of your body image.

 

Shasha: That’s like comparing drawing to I don’t know. Why are you comparing makeup to exercise? Why?

 

Shalom: Because some people just want that perfect body so what’s it like?

 

Shasha: I mean, I acted just for fun. It doesn’t sound fun anymore. 

 

Sinead: Oh yea, let’s discuss the topic of makeup for fun. 

 

Shasha: There’s nothing wrong with that. If the issue comes isn’t when you feel dissatisfied. You’re putting on makeup because you’re dissatisfied?

 

Sinead: Yeah, but the thing is should that be an issue too?

 

Shalom: What about being dissatisfied with yourself? Like if you want to up yourself 

 

Sinead: What I’m saying is if they are dissatisfied and they want to do something to better themselves, they feel like makeup is the way it should that be a bad thing? 

 

Shasha: Yes. 

 

Shalom: Well, okay. Maybe 

 

Sinead: Is that like, 

 

Shasha: Cause you’re encouraging best self-esteem? What’s your argument here? 

 

Sinead: No, I’m just asking should that be a bad thing? What is someone’s like, you don’t know me? You don’t know that. I feel great when I wear makeup and like or like maybe wigs say someone’s like, oh, I want to wear wigs because they don’t 

 

Shasha: Oh, yeah. Yeah, like, like, we use extensions. You know, that’s why I kind of like I had a phase where I wore a lot of wigs but I kind of like I kind of want to take a break. 

 

Sinead: But would you say that it was because you couldn’t take care of your hair or you really did not like your natural hair?

 

Shasha: I was lazy 

 

Sinead: or you, okay you were just lazy. 

 

Shasha: And see that’s why when it comes bad when you would rather wear fake hair than take care of your real hair. You know I’m saying 

 

Shalom: hmm, 

 

Sinead: people just want to experiment have fun I guess the best 

 

Shasha: I’m not gonna argue if you don’t like the hair because I know natural hair there’s a lot

 

Sinead: I thought that the real thing we’re just saying is you have to appreciate your natural self 

 

Shasha: right 

 

Sinead: as well as have fun with makeup or wigs or whatever.

 

Shalom: right Wow

 

Shasha: Yeah. I mean you guys got locks cuz I mean you want to I don’t know you just like that style. Not because you hated natural hair right? 

 

Shalom: No, no, I love my natural hair. I love the way how it grows and everything 

 

Shasha: kept you guys were frustrated. 

 

Sinead: No, I didn’t say I hate I was 

 

Shalom: no I love my natural hair 

 

Sinead: and I just said that

 

Shalom: I like my natural hair now I said 

 

Shasha: no I mean before,

 

Sinead: before I didn’t hate my hair,

 

Shalom: for me before I didn’t hate my hair. 

 

Sinead: I just couldn’t take care of it.

 

Shalom: Yeah.

 

Shasha: I don’t want to hear you’re not like did you have the best self-esteem like

 

Sinead: no no, I still love my hair. I did not like I didn’t hate my hair and I didn’t feel like I look bad with the hair. I had like a full Afro sometimes like 

 

Shasha: Sinead’s was very thick. 

 

Sinead: But I did not have the tools to take care of it or I didn’t know where to find the tools to take care of my hair even though the 

 

Shasha: right 

 

Sinead: but I didn’t really think about that at the moment. I didn’t have the right mindset to go that far. 

 

Shalom: Okay, guys, your nine-year-old comes in your bathroom. She’s crying and she’s like Mom, all the kids in my school are oh, we’re wearing makeup. I want to look pretty too 

 

Sinead: Oh, definitely I would encourage her and say 

 

Shasha: no. 

 

Sinead: I would say no foul be like you are first of all you are nine you don’t even look older. Because the thing is about makeup is it definitely makes you look older. that’s what makes 

 

Shasha: Yeah, basically not young 

 

Sinead: and when you’re nine that doesn’t need to be thinking about you need to be satisfied with the way you look.

 

Shasha: Yes, 

 

Sinead: it’s always gonna be the thing about wearing makeup when you’re young. It’s like you’re not done developing facial features right

 

Shasha: Yeah, so no stress go play with the barbie. 

 

Sinead: I looked drastically different than for me at 13 at 10 Even 16 I look different 

 

Shalom: oh yeah definitely 

 

Sinead: I don’t know but you always kind of look the same 

 

Shalom: everyone thinks that you’re younger than you are Shasha 

 

Shasha: everyone thinks you guys are younger than you are 

 

Shalom: no no no literally I heard someone gasp once when they heard your age, like 

 

Shasha: I heard people scream out and horror when they find out you’re like almost you’re 22 and you look like 11.

 

Sinead: The thing is, is that make a mix of older and we’ve always been mistaken for teenagers 

 

Shasha: Have that bothered you guys?

 

Sinead: for being mistaken as young? No, it doesn’t bother me.

 

Shalom: it doesn’t bother me

 

Sinead: not people that I literally know some of my own friends who thought I was younger than I am 

 

Shalom: yeah but it’s also the way how you carry yourself well actually no when you’re doing it yourself we actually carry ourselves older than you are younger 

 

Shasha: so since skyjack says look the same for years 

 

Sinead: she looks young 

 

Shalom: yeah

 

Shasha: she looks the same so 

 

Shalom: but she wears makeup though. I think it’s just more of her body because 

 

Shasha: you asked me like she’s tiny but also her face looks the same

 

Shalom: yeah her face does look the same

 

Shasha: in the real literally so I mean 

 

Shalom: what but like how could that never bothered us like us just being young looking young 

 

Sinead: Yes for some people it bothers them to look young but really think about it. 

 

Shasha: Yeah,

 

Sinead: at some point, you want to look younger like you know when you’re older than you’re like wait a minute, then people start getting Botox and they start getting like 

 

Shasha: yeah, fillers

 

Sinead: they start being fillers and stuff or taking like fat off or whatever right because they want to look younger but I would say I would argue to say that stay away from a lot of well, first of all, eat healthily 

 

Shalom: eat healthily yes 

 

Sinead: make healthy choices and don’t wear makeup as often as you think you want to 

 

Shalom: Alicia Keys she stopped wearing makeup for years now. 

 

Sinead: yeah she’s really good 

 

Shalom: Yeah, she does it really good 

 

Shasha: I remember on top of makeup lady gaga when she was filming was it called again in that film her film 

 

Sinead: Oh,

 

Shalom: star is born?

 

Shasha: start is born she was not allowed to wear makeup for the film and when she’s to try to sneak it in a little bit try to sneak in a few makeups but she had to wipe it off because she wasn’t for her role she wasn’t allowed to wear makeup they want her to be natural so I thought that was what is it Makeup

 

Shalom: but What is it? How come we’re not in this sort of natural phase? How come it’s just never here it’s always just different makeup trends but there’s just never a natural phase 

 

Shasha: hmm, because there’s no profit from being natural.

 

Sinead: Oh, I mean think about it. I mean there could be if people invested in skincare makeup companies will suffer but the thing is if they work together you know mess up your skin a little bit with makeup fix it with skincare

 

Shasha: what 

 

Sinead: think about it they both profit from that but if you only focus on natural then only the skincare profits come

 

Shasha: Oh so so so you can start our company Like a makeup company and then a skincare company number like we give them like these toxic makeup ingredients and then he can clean it up with 

 

Sinead: well you are creating a master plan. 

 

Shasha: an evil plan, But you’re right I feel like everyone needs to prioritize skincare first and foremost. 

 

Shalom: I mean and yeah, I mean like I agree wholeheartedly I mean like I feel like I need to invest myself even more of skincare I mean like I don’t use makeup so it’s like I need to you know substitute you know get those serums and those base sprays yeah 

 

Shasha: base face?

 

Sinead: rose water mist thing

 

Shasha: no, 

 

Sinead: You never use one?

 

Shalom: you never used one?  

 

Sinead: it’s relaxing you know

 

Shasha: What are you talking about?

 

Sinead: you never use a rosewater spray. 

 

Shasha: uh-uh. 

 

Sinead: You should try it

 

Shalom: it’s really nice 

 

Sinead: you spray it right on your face and it’s kind of hydrating

 

Shalom: I will literally buy you one Shasha Because honestly we need to invest me and you, me and you yes 

 

Shasha: Trust me we haven’t got enough water it’s from a tap. 

 

Shalom: Oh no, no, there needs to be more than just water. Three soap involved there needs to be 

 

Shasha: no I can use soap and stuff. I’m just saying this 

 

Sinead: Rosewater rose water is refreshing 

 

Shasha: so you can tell who prioritizes skincare more? 

 

Sinead: Okay, yeah, you know 

 

Shalom: Wait, wait, wait what tell us you’re like a little bit of it. You

don’t see the whole thing but like what you remember what are you know?

 

Sinead: Let me just let me reveal my secrets you know so this is what I do. Most days. I wash my face with some water. I don’t do soap every day because it dries out to this all my skin is even different from like say Shalom skin it’s slightly more oily

 

Shasha: I just soap every day because my skin is oily 

 

Sinead: so I don’t do soap every day but I will do water for sure. Then of course I do some serum I’d hyaluronic acid. I think that’s what it’s called. Yeah, that’s what it’s called. Right? Sometimes I do niacinamide. And then I put on some Neutrogena face cream after those. 

 

Shasha: For me. I wash with Cetaphil I love, I’ve been using the same Cetaphil I forgot what the I think it was specifically for phase out the Barwin I don’t know who would use it Barwin but I use that Cetaphil shojo Scrub. Then I put on what’s called again aloe vera oil and olive oil a little bit of mix of the two I don’t put too much because my face is more oily but just to hydrate it a little bit more. I use a mix of those it’s really hydrating

 

Sinead: Yeah

 

Shalom: Nice 

 

Shasha: try the rosewater though

 

Shalom: nice 

 

Sinead: alright okay now 

 

Shasha: slowly keep going 

 

Shalom: I have some I have a whole bunch of products but I kind of want to list them but I don’t feel like getting it so I will tell you guys another time 

 

Sinead: another time? Ok like, what do you do? Do you wash your face with soap every day? like

 

Shalom: oh yeah, every night at least I would wash it 

 

Sinead: well you should watch it in the morning too because like when

 

Shalom: and morning It just depends it’s either I vary either night or day by that I wash it. But I use a whole bunch of other products 

 

Shasha: Do you wash soap twice a day that wouldn’t dry your skin out with soap?

 

Sinead: not if you have oily skin

 

Shasha: oh yeah she does oily skin you got to know your type you 

 

Sinead: got to know you got to do what’s best for your skin. 

 

Shalom: Wait hold on I’m gonna get one or two of my products

 

Shasha: no wait Shalom is leaving the building right now. For now, let’s talk about something besides what is your is your we do have a haircare routine I know you have sister locks for like 

 

Sinead: the thing is about with Sister locks if you don’t really need a hair care routine, you can oil it every you know a couple of weeks but like and then wash it every couple weeks but like the you don’t really have to do much to maintain it like you don’t have to grind. You don’t need to like what you have to do with your hair and put protective styles in it. 

 

Shasha: And so it just shows me that you don’t need products your hair because look nice hair. Um, I don’t know if

 

Sinead: you do need to put products in your hair if it’s like that. But because of locks, the only way they will start locking is if you don’t put a bunch of stuff in. If you start putting stuff in, you’ll start slipping 

 

Shasha: No, but think about it the way to grow your hair because Sinead’s hair was shoulder length when she started but now it’s been mid-waist length. 

 

Sinead: But think about it like this dreads are almost like a protective style. They’re like braids, but dreads you know, I mean, the way like that it’s not going to like start breaking 

 

Shasha: Oh, 

 

Sinead: because it’s basically a constant protective style. 

 

Shasha: So the secret to growing your hair is protective style so it doesn’t break 

 

Sinead: Yes, that’s what I would say it is nicely dressed and not necessarily not putting products but keeping your hair and protective styles. 

 

Shasha: Wow, that’s interesting. I keep my hair and Afro 24/7

 

Sinead: I think it will it won’t be protected at the ends in stuff because it’s always out but if you have any protective styles.

 

Shasha: it’s gonna grow nice Sinead’s hair grew so fast. Oh, Shalom is back with her hair skincare products. 

 

Sinead: Okay, so what do you have Shalom?

 

Shalom: Okay, so I have hydro bio serum. 

 

Sinead: So what is it is moisturizing concentrate? 

 

Shalom: Yes. And I also use hydro bio gel cream as well. 

 

Sinead: Okay, more stuff. I don’t exactly know what it is. 

 

Shalom: The makeup artist in LA used it and then Mom ordered it. 

 

Sinead: Okay, 

 

Shalom: so yeah, I also use Insta natural 

 

Sinead: Oh yeah niacinamide serum. It has hyaluronic acid, vitamin E all that is really good for the skin. I highly recommend using niacinamide serum.

 

Shalom: I need to buy more of mine. This one’s almost out. I also use 

 

Sinead: Instanatural I love instanatural so I use it

 

Shalom: Yeah, instanatural Vitamin C cleanser 

 

Sinead: I use for my skin to wash my face. 

 

Shalom: And I also use 

 

Sinead: Mario Badescu as I say, 

 

Shalom: I think so. 

 

Sinead: That’s the rosewater 

 

Shalom: so yeah, Shasha try some on your face 

 

Sinead: Yes, try it

 

Shasha: no

 

Sinead: okay move the microphone

 

Shasha: wait I might be allergic to it

 

Sinead: You’re not allergic to it

 

Shalom: Shasha It’s natural 

 

Shasha: That smells good. Why do you spray it to my eyes? 

 

Sinead: What? you suppose to close your eyes

 

Shasha: You didn’t tell me to?

 

Sinead: You didn’t even close your eyes? 

 

Shasha: No.

 

Shalom: Shasha?

 

Shasha: I don’t even know when you’re gonna spray it.

 

Sinead: I’m sorry. I’m sorry.

 

Shalom: I have to make your face heal.

 

Shasha: That just smells really good.

 

Shalom: You want we want me to buy you one. 

 

Shasha: No, thank you. 

 

Sinead: It smells good no Thank you. 

 

Shasha: really good. Oh, yeah, like I’m running across my face. 

 

Sinead: And that’s that’s what Im saying. It’s, it’s refreshing. Basically what we’re saying is guys take care of who you are naturally because then you’ll learn to appreciate yourself more and you won’t necessarily feel pushed to wear makeup if you don’t really want to but like society pressures, you know? 

 

Shalom: Yeah, and it’s okay to have fun with makeup. Do you know? Just know just appreciate your natural self first, you know? 

 

Sinead: Yeah, cuz deep down you got to make sure you appreciate yourself and love yourself deep down. It’s not even really about like, we’re not even trying to criticize anybody for wearing makeup or anything like that.

 

Shalom: No, 

 

Sinead: we just want to make sure that everybody has the best mindset first as they’re going in. As you guys are getting into makeup or getting into wearing wigs or getting into wearing even different clothes and stuff like that. 

 

Shalom and Shasha: Right right.

 

Shasha: I think the next topic should definitely be hair. 

 

Sinead: Hair,

 

Shalom: yeah,

 

Shasha: I don’t know what do you guys think 

 

Sinead: that’s a good idea. 

 

Shalom: That is a good idea 

 

Sinead: Anyways, guys, we hope we were able to you know, have a nice conversation with you all that was thought-provoking. You know, thinking about what you’re going to change in your life. Maybe do a skin routine if you don’t have one stuff like that, you know, you know, but anyway, thank you guys for joining us in this podcast. We will see you in the next episode.

Everyone: Bye

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