Our RV Broke Twice and Left Us Stranded | Onyx Family Podcast Ep. 7

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Sinead: Hey guys, welcome back to the Shawties Podcast with your hosts Sinead and also my host 

 

Shasha: Shasha 

 

Shalom: Shalom 

 

Sinead: my sisters 

 

Shalom: now yeah yeah guys it’s been a while since we’ve been on here a little bit. It’s been about a month or so 

 

Sinead: oh has it? 

 

Shalom: Yes, I think so 

 

Sinead: No while things have been busy you know right now we just recently launched our family talk show onyx family dinner, which is on the Onyx family YouTube channel. So that was a big project that we were so excited to release

 

Shasha: and in the first episode just came out today with Emmy award-winning Emmanuel Acho he played for the Philadelphia Eagles back in NFL 

 

Sinead: and also he just won an Emmy as well. Yeah, 

 

Shasha: and now he’s making he’s really popular for a series of uncomfortable conversations with a black man about race or something 

 

Sinead: about a comfortable conversation with a black man about anything really

 

Shasha: Yeah,

 

Sinead: That’s what the topic is 

 

Shasha: so yeah, 

 

Shalom: yes. So, girls, we’re gonna have an uncomfortable conversation with each other right now. 

 

Sinead: Yeah,

 

Shalom: we’re gonna discuss a range of topics.

 

Shasha: Today we’re talking about makeup. 

 

Shalom: Are we talking about makeup? 

 

Sinead: We’re talking about 

 

Shasha: beauty, 

 

Shalom and Sinead: not just beauty. 

 

Shasha: what do you mean not just beauty, What else? 

 

Shalom: I mean that those are fun topics, but I’m just saying about being comfortable in your own skin. 

 

Sinead: Yes.

 

Shalom:  And you know, not needing the maybe like discussing the fact how makeup changes you. 

 

Shasha: Okay, so when was the first time I just want to ask you guys what was the first time you ever wore makeup? Do you remember?

 

Sinead: Do I remember? Okay, what counts as makeup? Like 

 

Shasha: anything? 

 

Sinead: Anything? Like lip gloss? 

 

Shasha: Yeah, I remember the first time I was turning eight, and we were going into a spa-like a spa thing. And we got lip gloss on we got medi pedis and it was just like the first time ever was did up and if you look at the photos I think we do have a photo not sure but we do you can see we were feeling ourselves looking extra now. 

 

Sinead: Oh, yeah. 

 

Shalom: Yeah, I’m not gonna lie 

 

Sinead: I don’t know why my first thought even though that this is the first time I remember getting wearing this lip balm. I was about 13/14 wearing this lip balm and it was slightly colored. I mean, when I say slightly covered colored. I mean it was very slightly pink and my mom immediately notice and said go wipe that off. 

 

Shasha: How old are you?

 

Sinead:  I was like 13/14 

 

Shasha: Are you sure?

 

Sinead: I am positive

 

Shalom: I remember 

 

Shasha: Well I just wanna let you guys know, context back then. We were pastor’s Kids 

 

Sinead: Yeah. 

 

Shasha: And even we couldn’t really dress heavy.

 

Shalom:  Well, here’s the thing. We just weren’t allowed in our households you know, we were very conservative. We were

 

Shasha: We’re pastor’s family. 

 

Sinead: Yeah, you have just had a certain appearance of how we were looking. 

 

Shalom: Okay, so my first experiment with makeup I was in grandma’s house right and so I went inside her bathroom and I saw this huge counter full of makeup and so I was like, oh, I’m gonna experiment making sure no one looked so I just grabbed I didn’t notice at the time mascara. I just didn’t even put on my eyelashes I put on my eyebrows because I thought it was gonna give me a little arch you know? 

 

Sinead: Yeah,

 

Shalom: some people use it for their arches right?

 

Sinead: no mascara is not built for the eyebrows it’s just not.

 

Shalom: You see guys. Like I’m so like I’ve never like I’m 22 right now and I don’t wear makeup like I don’t wear makeup every day well for a few reasons why just because the way I was raised and because of lack of interest and to lack of experiment not that I can get into it I could if I wanted to but I don’t know it’s just not something that I necessarily desire to wear makeup every single day 

 

Shasha: Yeah,

 

Shalom: it’s so crazy when I see kids out there they just like every time they go to school they’re like put a full flush of makeup on I’m like whoa, is this like

 

Sinead:  it’s definitely time-consuming, you have to wake up earlier to do it. You have to spend some time you got to watch tutorials.\

 

Shasha: I know some people take it as a hobby but it looks like a job to me. 

 

Sinead: But the thing is the people that see it as a hobby and they’re like genuinely fun to them. I’m like good for you. It’s like an art to them you know?

 

Shalom: exactly!

 

Sinead: Like, man that’s great.

 

Shalom: Oh yeah. Oh yeah, definitely. But do 

 

Shasha: I thought you like to wear makeup?

 

Sinead: the thing is, I don’t like to wear it daily but I do have fun and I do wear it so if I’m doing a music video I can have a little fun with them some glitter whatever on the eyelids and blending and stuff. I have a little fun with that when I’m doing it for that I just on the daily I’m not that kind of person to wear it on the daily

 

Shalom: now let me ask you a question. Do you think makeup really just changes you physically?

 

Sinead: like how you look? Well, I think that the more you wear it, it could probably clog up your pores and stuff like that and probably give you a little more skin issues if you’re not taking care of your skin because like some people they’re really good at taking care of their skin 

 

Shalom: right 

 

Sinead: masks and stuff to replenish their face and then be the makeup and all that

 

Shasha: I just buy wipes from Walmart just wipe them off. I don’t do any kind of skincare.

 

Sinead: If you will just do that you’re gonna have skin issues because you’re not fully cleaning it and fully rejuvenating your skin afterward. 

 

Shalom: Yeah, like buying products that will help Like skincare, like invest in yourself in skincare, 

 

Sinead: yeah if you’re gonna invest in makeup, you gotta invest in the skincare part, or else you might ruin your skin because makeup has a lot of chemicals and it’s just overall it’s like it’s putting a bunch of chemicals on your skin, which absorbs all of it, which goes into your body. So I always considered that whenever I wear makeup, you know?

 

Shasha: Oh my goodness. Yeah, I remember we were just having a photoshoot. I think last year.

 

Sinead: not last year. It’s like two years ago. 

 

Shasha: Yeah, two years ago when we had all lined up in front of. 

 

Sinead: oh  2 years ago, Now I know we’re talking about it, it was here, right? 

 

Shasha: Yeah, Well there’s another photoshoot, we all lined up on the table and she was showing us how to put on makeup for the photoshoot because none of us knew exactly how to put it on properly.

 

Shalom: I still don’t know. 

 

Shasha: So we all lined up on the table as following this tutorial. And it was just the funniest thing 

 

Sinead: it was, that was very interesting. Like we really generally don’t know how to apply. Well, I think that now I’ve learned because I had a little practice.

 

Shalom: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 

 

Sinead: And then oh, imagine if you guys had to do your makeup for Onyx family dinner. 

 

Shalom and Shasha: Oh my goodness. 

 

Shalom: I couldn’t I wouldn’t. I know that the lighting would just like catching my bad side. Just like sometimes I please. Like I literally forget my neck sometimes. And it’s like, 

 

Shasha: Oh my God. 

 

Sinead: It’ll be like the makeup kind of stops at the chin. Instead of going down to the neck.

 

Shalom: And I don’t even go up probably and sometimes I don’t even go all the way on my foreheads. Just like 

 

Sinead: yeah, so that’s an issue.

 

Shalom: Exactly. So I actually respect those who actually have they do a really great job with their makeup. So it’s like props to you. But I want to ask you guys how you like is too young for makeup. 

 

Sinead: How young is too young for makeup? I just feel like not necessary 

 

Shasha: because you already have good skin as a kid. 

 

Sinead: Oh no. Not everyone have good skin as a kid but I feel like that when you’re at those ages, it should be more emphasized to take care do skincare more than covering it up with makeup? 

 

Shasha: That’s a good point. 

 

Sinead: I think there should be more effort in instead of doing tutorials and learning how to do makeup, maybe tutorials and like okay, find your skin your best skin regimen. Okay, what helps dry skin one, 

 

Shalom: right.

 

Sinead: finding those kinds of fixes is better. Now some people don’t even wear makeup to cover up skin issues but they wear it because they think that they don’t look good enough. And then I would say to that emphasize self-love before jumping to make it.

 

Shalom: It’s interesting. You said skin issues right? Because a lot of people have what do you call it? like that sort of acne disease? like acute. What does it call?

 

Shasha: acne? I think.

 

Sinead: I think there’s another word for it.

 

Shalom: I know 

 

Sinead: not that acne but 

 

Shalom: no, no. Yeah, there’s something there’s another word to it. But yeah, they have that type of disease. And also they have like another sort of disease like I can’t remember. But yeah, the acne thing. Like do you think that in terms of acne? Do you think that it’s best when someone you know can cover up or do you think that it’s more like 

 

Sinead: man, the thing is that you can’t judge? You can’t really judge per se someone who does not feel comfortable because they have really really bad skin issues.

 

Shasha: Yeah, I’ve never been there before 

 

Shalom: or burns. Like that’s what I meant to say.

 

Sinead: oh burns

 

Shasha: okay, That’s a special situation we’re not talking about.

 

Sinead: yeah  I’m not gonna tell a burn victim. Oh, don’t wear makeup you need to self-love yourself. 

 

Shasha: Okay, we’re talking about people who just have skin issues. That’s it like nothing more horrific happened

 

Sinead: no but even though those people might not feel self-confident no one’s getting but I would say that you still got to learn to love yourself with and without the makeup. You still got to learn to love yourself because it’s going to spread to other things if you’re not loving yourself in certain areas.

 

Shasha: Oh, that was deep. 

 

Sinead: Yeah,

 

Shasha: that was deep. 

 

Shalom: Oh Cystic acne.

 

Shasha: Cystic acne. Yeah, I’ve seen that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. 

 

Shalom: I mean, yeah, there’s definitely there are some special cases where you know, maybe a person would really want to use makeup for certain things, but if you’re like already Okay, right. And your skin is already clear.

 

Sinead: And people still wear makeup because they want to look older or they want to look more mature or

 

Shalom: but what makes you mature? Is it the lip gloss that makes you mature? Is it the arches of the eyebrow? Or is it the actual condition and like

 

Sinead: and that’s the thing because some people can’t be like all makeup is bad or all makeup makes you look more mature because some people will only do a lip gloss like I mostly I wear lip gloss. That’s basically all I do. 

 

Shasha: I don’t think that counts as makeup. 

 

Shalom and Sinead: What really?

 

Sinead: what do some people do?

 

Shasha: I think lipstick is I think lipstick counts as make up

 

Sinead: some people wear only eyeliner, they literally only wear eyeliner. And it’s not even a lot of eyeliner but only a little bit of mascara. They only wear mascara but that’s still makeup but it’s like they’re like oh I want to I think that makeup when it pops out a certain feature like you’re like oh I’m targeting certain features. I’m not necessarily changing myself, but I’m emphasizing that’s the thing. There are two things that makeup can do it can emphasize features you already have. So people that wear mascara might be like oh, I want to show off my eyes more and like put make it emphasize what color my eyes or whatever, then some people want to change how they look and they’re literally some people will change like skin tone on their face, 

 

Shalom: right 

 

Sinead: face structure because they feel like their nose is too big or their chin is too square or their forehead is too high. Like all that kind of stuff. And when it gets to that point, it’s like you need to practice self-love and more than change how you look

 

Shalom: right

 

Sinead: Appreciate it. 

 

Shasha: Have you guys ever heard of permanent makeup surgery?

 

Sinead: Permanent make up surgery

 

Shalom: what is that?

 

Shasha: basically it can make it look like you have permanent makeup on. So permanent makeup surgery. It’s like tattoos, a needle basically pigments to where you want it to go. It’s like 

 

Sinead: What?

 

Shasha: it was it’s actually heard of that before.

 

Sinead: okay, listen  What if you said hey, I want to permanently look like I have makeup on right now like okay, we’ll call you on your eyeshadow to be and you’re like oh blue, blue today what? It just does not match all your outfits now from then on you will always have blue eyeshadow. 

 

Shalom: wait, so does that make it look like? Do you have always have like an arch sort of eyebrows?

 

Shasha: yeah basically anything I think they make their lips pinker you can have 

 

Sinead: permanent blush. 

 

Shasha: Yes. Stuff like that. It’s kind of like tattoos. 

 

Sinead: That’s that’s kind of extreme to me. That’s that kind of No, it is extreme to me. Like I’m just I don’t know. 

 

Shasha: Okay, but I for me, I would actually nonetheless, I would actually wear makeup more if I did not have to do the work of putting it on if they can create a mask Elon Musk create a mask. I mean, he’s an inventor, if he invented something where you could put it on your face, and then just like, peel it off and make it was on you. 

 

Sinead: But that’s not permanent, that’s not permanent. So 

 

Shasha: no, no, no I just want to like if I just want one some, one day.

 

Sinead: Are you saying that the only thing stopping you from wearing makeup is the fact that you just don’t know how to do it.

 

Shasha: Yeah

 

Sinead: so you would wear makeup every day. If you could do it easily. 

 

Shasha: Yeah, why not? 

 

Sinead: Sorry. Wait, are you saying that you’re not satisfied with the way you look? Or just for the fun of it? 

 

Shasha: Just for the fun of it.

 

Sinead: Okay, okay, that’s what I’m wondering why.

 

Shalom: Wait Shasha, what if someone said the same thing about the exercise you love to exercise, right? You like the process of it you like 

 

Shasha: wait, what? No way, wait wait, But exercise is not

 

Sinead: No, Listen, someone’s like, Man, I can just slap some abs on, slaps some muscles on. 

 

Shasha: That’s body image issues. 

 

Sinead: No, actually, your face is body image, It is part of your body image.

 

Shasha: That’s like comparing drawing to I don’t know. Why are you comparing makeup to exercise? Why?

 

Shalom: Because some people just want that perfect body so what’s it like?

 

Shasha: I mean, I acted just for fun. It doesn’t sound fun anymore. 

 

Sinead: Oh yea, let’s discuss the topic of makeup for fun. 

 

Shasha: There’s nothing wrong with that. If the issue comes isn’t when you feel dissatisfied. You’re putting on makeup because you’re dissatisfied?

 

Sinead: Yeah, but the thing is should that be an issue too?

 

Shalom: What about being dissatisfied with yourself? Like if you want to up yourself 

 

Sinead: What I’m saying is if they are dissatisfied and they want to do something to better themselves, they feel like makeup is the way it should that be a bad thing? 

 

Shasha: Yes. 

 

Shalom: Well, okay. Maybe 

 

Sinead: Is that like, 

 

Shasha: Cause you’re encouraging best self-esteem? What’s your argument here? 

 

Sinead: No, I’m just asking should that be a bad thing? What is someone’s like, you don’t know me? You don’t know that. I feel great when I wear makeup and like or like maybe wigs say someone’s like, oh, I want to wear wigs because they don’t 

 

Shasha: Oh, yeah. Yeah, like, like, we use extensions. You know, that’s why I kind of like I had a phase where I wore a lot of wigs but I kind of like I kind of want to take a break. 

 

Sinead: But would you say that it was because you couldn’t take care of your hair or you really did not like your natural hair?

 

Shasha: I was lazy 

 

Sinead: or you, okay you were just lazy. 

 

Shasha: And see that’s why when it comes bad when you would rather wear fake hair than take care of your real hair. You know I’m saying 

 

Shalom: hmm, 

 

Sinead: people just want to experiment have fun I guess the best 

 

Shasha: I’m not gonna argue if you don’t like the hair because I know natural hair there’s a lot

 

Sinead: I thought that the real thing we’re just saying is you have to appreciate your natural self 

 

Shasha: right 

 

Sinead: as well as have fun with makeup or wigs or whatever.

 

Shalom: right Wow

 

Shasha: Yeah. I mean you guys got locks cuz I mean you want to I don’t know you just like that style. Not because you hated natural hair right? 

 

Shalom: No, no, I love my natural hair. I love the way how it grows and everything 

 

Shasha: kept you guys were frustrated. 

 

Sinead: No, I didn’t say I hate I was 

 

Shalom: no I love my natural hair 

 

Sinead: and I just said that

 

Shalom: I like my natural hair now I said 

 

Shasha: no I mean before,

 

Sinead: before I didn’t hate my hair,

 

Shalom: for me before I didn’t hate my hair. 

 

Sinead: I just couldn’t take care of it.

 

Shalom: Yeah.

 

Shasha: I don’t want to hear you’re not like did you have the best self-esteem like

 

Sinead: no no, I still love my hair. I did not like I didn’t hate my hair and I didn’t feel like I look bad with the hair. I had like a full Afro sometimes like 

 

Shasha: Sinead’s was very thick. 

 

Sinead: But I did not have the tools to take care of it or I didn’t know where to find the tools to take care of my hair even though the 

 

Shasha: right 

 

Sinead: but I didn’t really think about that at the moment. I didn’t have the right mindset to go that far. 

 

Shalom: Okay, guys, your nine-year-old comes in your bathroom. She’s crying and she’s like Mom, all the kids in my school are oh, we’re wearing makeup. I want to look pretty too 

 

Sinead: Oh, definitely I would encourage her and say 

 

Shasha: no. 

 

Sinead: I would say no foul be like you are first of all you are nine you don’t even look older. Because the thing is about makeup is it definitely makes you look older. that’s what makes 

 

Shasha: Yeah, basically not young 

 

Sinead: and when you’re nine that doesn’t need to be thinking about you need to be satisfied with the way you look.

 

Shasha: Yes, 

 

Sinead: it’s always gonna be the thing about wearing makeup when you’re young. It’s like you’re not done developing facial features right

 

Shasha: Yeah, so no stress go play with the barbie. 

 

Sinead: I looked drastically different than for me at 13 at 10 Even 16 I look different 

 

Shalom: oh yeah definitely 

 

Sinead: I don’t know but you always kind of look the same 

 

Shalom: everyone thinks that you’re younger than you are Shasha 

 

Shasha: everyone thinks you guys are younger than you are 

 

Shalom: no no no literally I heard someone gasp once when they heard your age, like 

 

Shasha: I heard people scream out and horror when they find out you’re like almost you’re 22 and you look like 11.

 

Sinead: The thing is, is that make a mix of older and we’ve always been mistaken for teenagers 

 

Shasha: Have that bothered you guys?

 

Sinead: for being mistaken as young? No, it doesn’t bother me.

 

Shalom: it doesn’t bother me

 

Sinead: not people that I literally know some of my own friends who thought I was younger than I am 

 

Shalom: yeah but it’s also the way how you carry yourself well actually no when you’re doing it yourself we actually carry ourselves older than you are younger 

 

Shasha: so since skyjack says look the same for years 

 

Sinead: she looks young 

 

Shalom: yeah

 

Shasha: she looks the same so 

 

Shalom: but she wears makeup though. I think it’s just more of her body because 

 

Shasha: you asked me like she’s tiny but also her face looks the same

 

Shalom: yeah her face does look the same

 

Shasha: in the real literally so I mean 

 

Shalom: what but like how could that never bothered us like us just being young looking young 

 

Sinead: Yes for some people it bothers them to look young but really think about it. 

 

Shasha: Yeah,

 

Sinead: at some point, you want to look younger like you know when you’re older than you’re like wait a minute, then people start getting Botox and they start getting like 

 

Shasha: yeah, fillers

 

Sinead: they start being fillers and stuff or taking like fat off or whatever right because they want to look younger but I would say I would argue to say that stay away from a lot of well, first of all, eat healthily 

 

Shalom: eat healthily yes 

 

Sinead: make healthy choices and don’t wear makeup as often as you think you want to 

 

Shalom: Alicia Keys she stopped wearing makeup for years now. 

 

Sinead: yeah she’s really good 

 

Shalom: Yeah, she does it really good 

 

Shasha: I remember on top of makeup lady gaga when she was filming was it called again in that film her film 

 

Sinead: Oh,

 

Shalom: star is born?

 

Shasha: start is born she was not allowed to wear makeup for the film and when she’s to try to sneak it in a little bit try to sneak in a few makeups but she had to wipe it off because she wasn’t for her role she wasn’t allowed to wear makeup they want her to be natural so I thought that was what is it Makeup

 

Shalom: but What is it? How come we’re not in this sort of natural phase? How come it’s just never here it’s always just different makeup trends but there’s just never a natural phase 

 

Shasha: hmm, because there’s no profit from being natural.

 

Sinead: Oh, I mean think about it. I mean there could be if people invested in skincare makeup companies will suffer but the thing is if they work together you know mess up your skin a little bit with makeup fix it with skincare

 

Shasha: what 

 

Sinead: think about it they both profit from that but if you only focus on natural then only the skincare profits come

 

Shasha: Oh so so so you can start our company Like a makeup company and then a skincare company number like we give them like these toxic makeup ingredients and then he can clean it up with 

 

Sinead: well you are creating a master plan. 

 

Shasha: an evil plan, But you’re right I feel like everyone needs to prioritize skincare first and foremost. 

 

Shalom: I mean and yeah, I mean like I agree wholeheartedly I mean like I feel like I need to invest myself even more of skincare I mean like I don’t use makeup so it’s like I need to you know substitute you know get those serums and those base sprays yeah 

 

Shasha: base face?

 

Sinead: rose water mist thing

 

Shasha: no, 

 

Sinead: You never use one?

 

Shalom: you never used one?  

 

Sinead: it’s relaxing you know

 

Shasha: What are you talking about?

 

Sinead: you never use a rosewater spray. 

 

Shasha: uh-uh. 

 

Sinead: You should try it

 

Shalom: it’s really nice 

 

Sinead: you spray it right on your face and it’s kind of hydrating

 

Shalom: I will literally buy you one Shasha Because honestly we need to invest me and you, me and you yes 

 

Shasha: Trust me we haven’t got enough water it’s from a tap. 

 

Shalom: Oh no, no, there needs to be more than just water. Three soap involved there needs to be 

 

Shasha: no I can use soap and stuff. I’m just saying this 

 

Sinead: Rosewater rose water is refreshing 

 

Shasha: so you can tell who prioritizes skincare more? 

 

Sinead: Okay, yeah, you know 

 

Shalom: Wait, wait, wait what tell us you’re like a little bit of it. You

don’t see the whole thing but like what you remember what are you know?

 

Sinead: Let me just let me reveal my secrets you know so this is what I do. Most days. I wash my face with some water. I don’t do soap every day because it dries out to this all my skin is even different from like say Shalom skin it’s slightly more oily

 

Shasha: I just soap every day because my skin is oily 

 

Sinead: so I don’t do soap every day but I will do water for sure. Then of course I do some serum I’d hyaluronic acid. I think that’s what it’s called. Yeah, that’s what it’s called. Right? Sometimes I do niacinamide. And then I put on some Neutrogena face cream after those. 

 

Shasha: For me. I wash with Cetaphil I love, I’ve been using the same Cetaphil I forgot what the I think it was specifically for phase out the Barwin I don’t know who would use it Barwin but I use that Cetaphil shojo Scrub. Then I put on what’s called again aloe vera oil and olive oil a little bit of mix of the two I don’t put too much because my face is more oily but just to hydrate it a little bit more. I use a mix of those it’s really hydrating

 

Sinead: Yeah

 

Shalom: Nice 

 

Shasha: try the rosewater though

 

Shalom: nice 

 

Sinead: alright okay now 

 

Shasha: slowly keep going 

 

Shalom: I have some I have a whole bunch of products but I kind of want to list them but I don’t feel like getting it so I will tell you guys another time 

 

Sinead: another time? Ok like, what do you do? Do you wash your face with soap every day? like

 

Shalom: oh yeah, every night at least I would wash it 

 

Sinead: well you should watch it in the morning too because like when

 

Shalom: and morning It just depends it’s either I vary either night or day by that I wash it. But I use a whole bunch of other products 

 

Shasha: Do you wash soap twice a day that wouldn’t dry your skin out with soap?

 

Sinead: not if you have oily skin

 

Shasha: oh yeah she does oily skin you got to know your type you 

 

Sinead: got to know you got to do what’s best for your skin. 

 

Shalom: Wait hold on I’m gonna get one or two of my products

 

Shasha: no wait Shalom is leaving the building right now. For now, let’s talk about something besides what is your is your we do have a haircare routine I know you have sister locks for like 

 

Sinead: the thing is about with Sister locks if you don’t really need a hair care routine, you can oil it every you know a couple of weeks but like and then wash it every couple weeks but like the you don’t really have to do much to maintain it like you don’t have to grind. You don’t need to like what you have to do with your hair and put protective styles in it. 

 

Shasha: And so it just shows me that you don’t need products your hair because look nice hair. Um, I don’t know if

 

Sinead: you do need to put products in your hair if it’s like that. But because of locks, the only way they will start locking is if you don’t put a bunch of stuff in. If you start putting stuff in, you’ll start slipping 

 

Shasha: No, but think about it the way to grow your hair because Sinead’s hair was shoulder length when she started but now it’s been mid-waist length. 

 

Sinead: But think about it like this dreads are almost like a protective style. They’re like braids, but dreads you know, I mean, the way like that it’s not going to like start breaking 

 

Shasha: Oh, 

 

Sinead: because it’s basically a constant protective style. 

 

Shasha: So the secret to growing your hair is protective style so it doesn’t break 

 

Sinead: Yes, that’s what I would say it is nicely dressed and not necessarily not putting products but keeping your hair and protective styles. 

 

Shasha: Wow, that’s interesting. I keep my hair and Afro 24/7

 

Sinead: I think it will it won’t be protected at the ends in stuff because it’s always out but if you have any protective styles.

 

Shasha: it’s gonna grow nice Sinead’s hair grew so fast. Oh, Shalom is back with her hair skincare products. 

 

Sinead: Okay, so what do you have Shalom?

 

Shalom: Okay, so I have hydro bio serum. 

 

Sinead: So what is it is moisturizing concentrate? 

 

Shalom: Yes. And I also use hydro bio gel cream as well. 

 

Sinead: Okay, more stuff. I don’t exactly know what it is. 

 

Shalom: The makeup artist in LA used it and then Mom ordered it. 

 

Sinead: Okay, 

 

Shalom: so yeah, I also use Insta natural 

 

Sinead: Oh yeah niacinamide serum. It has hyaluronic acid, vitamin E all that is really good for the skin. I highly recommend using niacinamide serum.

 

Shalom: I need to buy more of mine. This one’s almost out. I also use 

 

Sinead: Instanatural I love instanatural so I use it

 

Shalom: Yeah, instanatural Vitamin C cleanser 

 

Sinead: I use for my skin to wash my face. 

 

Shalom: And I also use 

 

Sinead: Mario Badescu as I say, 

 

Shalom: I think so. 

 

Sinead: That’s the rosewater 

 

Shalom: so yeah, Shasha try some on your face 

 

Sinead: Yes, try it

 

Shasha: no

 

Sinead: okay move the microphone

 

Shasha: wait I might be allergic to it

 

Sinead: You’re not allergic to it

 

Shalom: Shasha It’s natural 

 

Shasha: That smells good. Why do you spray it to my eyes? 

 

Sinead: What? you suppose to close your eyes

 

Shasha: You didn’t tell me to?

 

Sinead: You didn’t even close your eyes? 

 

Shasha: No.

 

Shalom: Shasha?

 

Shasha: I don’t even know when you’re gonna spray it.

 

Sinead: I’m sorry. I’m sorry.

 

Shalom: I have to make your face heal.

 

Shasha: That just smells really good.

 

Shalom: You want we want me to buy you one. 

 

Shasha: No, thank you. 

 

Sinead: It smells good no Thank you. 

 

Shasha: really good. Oh, yeah, like I’m running across my face. 

 

Sinead: And that’s that’s what Im saying. It’s, it’s refreshing. Basically what we’re saying is guys take care of who you are naturally because then you’ll learn to appreciate yourself more and you won’t necessarily feel pushed to wear makeup if you don’t really want to but like society pressures, you know? 

 

Shalom: Yeah, and it’s okay to have fun with makeup. Do you know? Just know just appreciate your natural self first, you know? 

 

Sinead: Yeah, cuz deep down you got to make sure you appreciate yourself and love yourself deep down. It’s not even really about like, we’re not even trying to criticize anybody for wearing makeup or anything like that.

 

Shalom: No, 

 

Sinead: we just want to make sure that everybody has the best mindset first as they’re going in. As you guys are getting into makeup or getting into wearing wigs or getting into wearing even different clothes and stuff like that. 

 

Shalom and Shasha: Right right.

 

Shasha: I think the next topic should definitely be hair. 

 

Sinead: Hair,

 

Shalom: yeah,

 

Shasha: I don’t know what do you guys think 

 

Sinead: that’s a good idea. 

 

Shalom: That is a good idea 

 

Sinead: Anyways, guys, we hope we were able to you know, have a nice conversation with you all that was thought-provoking. You know, thinking about what you’re going to change in your life. Maybe do a skin routine if you don’t have one stuff like that, you know, you know, but anyway, thank you guys for joining us in this podcast. We will see you in the next episode.

Everyone: Bye

Listen to this podcast episode here: https://spoti.fi/3zDkBkc

 

Sinead: what’s up guys welcome back to the Shawties podcast with your host Sinead AKA Shonyx and my sister’s Shasha

 

Shasha: Shasha!

 

Sinead: I should let you say your name 

 

Shasha: That’s okay!

 

Sinead: and

 

Shalom: Shalom 

 

Sinead: yeah

 

Shasha: today guys we’re talking about juicy boy stories 

 

Sinead: yes awkward just awkward 

 

Shasha: yeah very embarrassing 

 

Sinead: yeah exposing ourselves

 

Shalom: yeah basically so who’s the star first

 

Sinead: oh obviously the thing is shalom has the juiciest one we’re gonna be honest here okay it’s just the funniest one to me okay that’s why I want Shalom to start off

 

Shasha: okay, since I only have a little bit of stories I’m gonna start with me

 

Sinead: really?

 

Shasha: yeah! 

 

Sinead: okay 

 

Shasha: so one time yeah so one time I was at church and we were uh it was like I don’t know a kids event or something like that and I was watching Shiloh because I’m you know back then I was you know those little baby students in church okay so anyways you know I forgot it was kind of some kind of VBS or something and a boy came up and he was like hey uh hey my friend kind of likes you and not him he’s friends and his friend kind of likes me did he point out the friend no he nodded my way and he nodded like hit the direction but I didn’t really look at that direction because I don’t really care and you know I was colder then I should have been 

 

Sinead: wait, what do you mean? What did you do? 

 

Shasha: I just stared at him, I didn’t even say anything

 

Shalom: well here’s the thing that boy should have come up to you instead of the friend and so, it’s like of course

 

Sinead: yeah why would a good friend be like yo! my friend, he doesn’t even point out the Friday because was there a group of guys there’s one?

 

Shasha: no just one and he walked up to me you know that took a lot of courage to walk out to me and say that don’t be like

 

Shalom: the friend?

 

Shasha: the friend 

 

Shalom: well yeah because like his friends like you 

 

Shasha: but you know what plot twist what if he liked me

 

[Laughter]

 

Shalom: plot twist

 

Shasha: I didn’t think of it just now, anyway, I was cold and he just walked off

 

Sinead: dang

 

Shalom: I don’t think you are cold, I just think you expected like are you gonna walk up to me or anything?

 

Shasha: no, I didn’t look confused, I just go ahead and looked at him 

 

Sinead: she didn’t look confused she was like, wait give the face that you gave to him

 

Shasha: it was like this

 

Sinead: no show the face of the camera 

 

Shasha: oh I like the word plant like this well you guys can’t see me if you listen to audio but

 

Sinead: it’s very stoic it is so, that’s like an old business face it was like

 

Shasha: because I think at that point I was kind of annoyed because it was super loud downstairs and too much going on I like being by myself so I think that was the reason why baby 

 

Shalom: yeah

 

Sinead: that is hilarious that is a 

 

Shalom: well I have a story too and this is a little bit more dramatic than that one so a couple of years back I really liked this guy and I guess he really liked me too and we would exchange glances every now and then like across the room and then like a gone said then we kind of waved and he will kind of wave as well one time when I was in the elevator he as the elevator was going to close he would wave at me until the elevator closed and I was like a wave back and stuff like that it was just like little moments like that

 

Sinead: okay

 

Shalom: and like one time during this church event as you know he was like kind of like the praise leader 

 

Sinead: yeah he was singing up in the praise like he was leading out the praise and worship he was singing and everything like that you know

 

Shalom: I still remember the song even to this day. Does anyone know like Fred Hammond? What’s that song?

 

Sinead: we’re blessed in the spirit 

 

Shasha and Sinead: [Sings]

 

Shalom: yeah yeah so there’s this part of the song where it goes and around and around 

 

Sinead: yeah

 

Shalom: yeah so basically he basically grabbed me into like a little dance and like turned me around in front of everybody everybody

 

Sinead: I saw I saw everybody’s faces they see this like this family like I think they’re pretty well known in the church basically

 

Shasha and Shalom: Really?

 

Sinead: when he yes when he took Shalom and spun her around I saw the faces of all the girls around them were like wait what

 

Shalom: exactly exactly 

 

Sinead: and that was a little confused like huh 

 

Shalom: well yeah it definitely made my day so basically, I was in my head I was like head in the clouds and basically, I just thought about that all weekend 

 

Shasha: awesome you know it is sweet 

 

Shalom: and it’s sweet and so like at one point I think after the event we traveled I think to texas for a little bit because we had an event 

 

Sinead: okay yeah yeah yeah 

 

Shalom: Yeah and then like he would like some old pictures I was like oh yeah I can’t wait to see him maybe that you know maybe this is a chance for him to like you know to ask me out or like you know something more

 

Sinead: right of course that’s what you would expect after something like that 

 

Shalom: exactly and so after a couple of weeks after we got back from texas yeah basically when I got it wasn’t as if he wasn’t acknowledging me it’s like I tried 

 

Shasha: He’s ignoring you

 

Shalom: well yeah basically basically basically and then like after a couple of weeks since I was like this is this doesn’t feel right he’s not acknowledging me at all like basically ignore me and he’s like oh maybe it’s just the game maybe like I don’t know maybe like that

 

Sinead: maybe it’s just the game

 

Shalom: Yeah and then I saw him with this girl and I was like 

 

Shasha: oh 

 

Sinead: with another girl 

 

Shalom: well basically they were sitting like in the pews and I was like hmm that’s she’s new I’ve never seen her before and so basically I see them like sit together talk together and it’s like now is this a friend is this maybe a cousin

 

Shasha: oh no

 

Shalom: and so I was like

 

Sinead: you thought it was his cousin that’s really thinking that 

 

Shalom: well when I was down back I was like oh you know what maybe I’m gonna you know to walk by them a couple of times they went outside I was like maybe I should walk by him you know just to remind him you know I exist so I would do certain things like that 

 

Sinead: Oh my goodness 

 

Shalom: no I’m basically yeah and I would do certain crate kooky things like if he was on the balcony I would go on the balcony if he was in the ground like that’s how 

 

Sinead: girl, girl

 

Shalom: that’s how bad I was and basically one time we were at this outlet mall and then I was you know

 

Sinead: outlet mall like the ones that are outside

 

Shalom: yeah yeah those types of malls and so one day we were with the whole family right 

 

Sinead: yeah it was all of us yeah 

 

Shalom: and we were walking back to the car and then I see these two people walking next to us I didn’t think much of it until I got closer and for some reason, I saw how this guy was like covering his head with his hands 

 

Sinead: huh 

 

Shalom: and so he was walking by and the girl wasn’t even paying attention to me or the family because she was on her phone and so when I glanced up I was shocked to see that it was actually the guy that I liked 

 

Sinead: oh my goodness

 

Shasha: What’s this guy’s name?

 

Shalom: what I’m gonna yell that’s a little bit dramatic okay so basically as he was walking by I stared at him like as he was walking by I turned around I stared at him he stood at me and then basically I kind of lost it and so I kind of ran away I kind of get gasped I got gasped and ran away towards the car and then my parents 

 

Sinead: did you hide behind a mom didn’t you try to hide behind her?

 

Shalom: no I ran like past you guys and then

 

Shasha: I remember this 

 

Shalom: my parents were like wait what’s wrong out loud and I was like and I couldn’t answer them because I was just in my moment you know that was my Hollywood dramatic moment 

 

Sinead: so he just saw you run off like you made eye contact with him and you just gasped first of all because it would have been 

 

Shalom: no my mouth was wide open too

 

Sinead: so you were just like and then you just ran off 

 

Shalom: look I was in my moment okay I was in my moment oh and I forgot to mention prior to that we were actually at Beyonce’s concert and I was like checking his Instagram like okay where is this guy why isn’t he not liking my photos anymore like what’s going on and I saw 

 

Shasha: He used to like your photos too?

 

Shalom: my old photos too 

 

Shasha: okay yeah

 

Shalom: and so I saw and I saw on his Instagram how he was on taking this other girl on out on dates and everything now granted he didn’t like nor dating or anything and we weren’t doing like there was nothing like he didn’t owe me anything and so i 

 

Shasha: but he danced with you right?

 

Shalom: yeah that one time so you know it it was just more on me, that I expected more 

 

Shasha: Nah he was playing you 

 

Sinead: He was playing with your emotions that’s the thing because

 

Shasha: no way liking your old photos covering his face

 

Sinead: dancing with you, and he was covering his face like he did something wrong cause why? You know

 

Shasha: I know because he was guilty, guilty of a charge

 

Shalom: yeah

 

Shasha: wow

 

Sinead: yeah I mean 

 

Shasha: this is a sad story

 

Sinead: Nah it’s funny

 

Shalom: It’s pretty embarrassing I couldn’t keep it cool and just walk off like you know kind of done something like okay whatever 

 

Sinead: I just understand why you didn’t just keep it cool just look at him be like yeah you know I’m better off without you anyway like why would you gasp in his face 

 

Shalom: okay because 

 

Sinead: and run 

 

Shalom: Okay it’s not my character to act cool and uh I’m a little bit more dramatic what about you Sinead?

 

Shasha: oh man 

 

Sinead: awkward stories are me you see I don’t have anything as dramatic as that I have like little awkward moments like okay so you guys know there was a guy that I liked a long time ago early teenage years whatever right just I just remember you know how you said you’re not in your nature to be cool I think for me it’s more like I’ll try to be cool

 

Shasha: wait what do you mean to try to be cool?

 

Sinead: okay well like I think I’m cool and then I’m like yeah I did this right okay so for example and I didn’t realize this until years later okay but at this moment we were doing some kind of hiking thing activity we were in some like girl boy scout kind of thing pathfinders that’s what it was called but basically, we were doing some hiking thing and basically, I caught up to him right and he was like oh hey what’s up he holds out his hand right he holds up his hand and I slap it hard I just

 

Shasha: what?

 

Sinead: just hold on your hand that’s how I did you know I just went

 

Shasha: why?

 

Sinead: yeah so I was like oh it’s like a lower high five or something and now he looked at

my hands at his hands so confused he’s like okay

 

Shasha: he wants to hold your hand 

 

Sinead: no no no no no 

 

Shalom: no he wanted to dab her 

 

Sinead: what I think is that he wanted like you know how you dab up like that kind of thing we just go like oh hey what’s up like that kind of thing like this like his hand was like this so it was like like look put your hand like that like you know like this you know like what’s up 

 

Shalom: yeah 

 

Sinead: that’s what I think he was trying to do but I don’t think I was supposed to just smack it as hard as I can like 

 

Shasha: Sinead that is the funniest thing ever 

 

Sinead: I don’t know why

 

Shalom: It is

 

Sinead: I don’t know the thing is at the moment I was like yeah I did that

 

Shalom: that is funny 

 

Sinead: not until I’m not even kidding not until maybe last year I was like wait a minute was It supposed to do something else

 

Shasha: that is so funny

 

Sinead: oh my goodness 

 

Shalom: oh my goodness okay

 

Shasha: and it was funnier is because I really thought he just wouldn’t hold your hand because he just 

 

Shalom: It was like the sweetest moment ever

 

[Laughter]

 

Shasha: and she slaps it.

 

Sinead: I don’t even know I just slapped it so hard

 

Shalom: no but it was like the opposite sucks like you’re like a girl like wanting to hold a guy’s head 

 

Sinead: that would be obvious I don’t think girls could be like yo dab me up 

 

Shalom: no but what if imagine if the guy just slapped it 

 

Sinead: oh I know that would actually be like I’d probably cry if I held up in my hand and be like just slap it 

 

Shasha: I probably wanted to cry.

 

[Music]

 

Shalom: all right I feel like I’m gonna tell the time where I was kind of rejected by two guys at once

 

Sinead:  what

 

Shalom: yeah so basically was it this year yeah this year me and Sinead was on this online dating thing 

 

Sinead: oh yeah the speed dating

 

Shalom: so basically yeah it was speed dating and it was basically

 

Sinead: wait what you mean you guys at once I got rejected by like 30 anyways so like

 

Shalom: okay no

 

Sinead: people go off no

 

Shasha: no no no wait wait wait wait the speed dating what is this?

 

Sinead: okay so basically, there was an app that was created for speed dating one-minute speed dating where you just talk for 60 seconds and let me tell you 60 seconds is not enough to even but you could barely say your name it’s 

 

Shalom: barely it’s like basically fifteen seconds

 

Sinead: I know most of the conversation is wow that’s a pretty name or like how do you pronounce it because who’s gonna pronounce Sinead right 

 

Shalom: exactly exactly 

 

Sinead: for Shalom, oh Does that mean peace? at least yours like they knew it Shalom med they were like “Sineed”.

 

Shasha: there’s a celebrity named Sinead, Sinead O’Connor 

 

Sinead: they don’t know Sinead O’Connor 

 

Shalom: okay so basically and at one point if you two if both of you matched up 

 

Sinead: then you can chat later

 

Shalom: yeah that yeah you could chat later so basically at the end of the night, I was talking to everybody I was talking to was old like

 

Sinead: oh yeah the problem is that the age range wasn’t like

 

Shalom: it was ridiculous

 

Sinead: setting stone so you know we got a couple of you know like maybe 60-year-olds from Africa or something like that

 

Shalom: I remember this one guy he was like really like grumpy and he just like hello and I was like hi and it’s like how are you doing and he’s like good 

 

Shasha: you’re probably his oldest daughter

 

Sinead: I remember like you’re so pretty you know I just like that kind of thing I was like whoa and it was like the old man I was like the thing is there was no hang-up button

 

Shasha: there was no hang-up button?

 

Sinead: no hang-up button you just have gotta wait for the 60 seconds to be out but it is like I can’t wait to get to know you more and I was like oh my goodness

 

Shalom: I think I know what you’re talking about cause we used to talk to the same person

 

Sinead: yeah the same person

 

Shasha: wait a minute so tell me about this the story you got rejected twice, Shalom

 

Shalom: rejecting twice okay basically at the end of the night the next day I actually um a couple of hours later two guys matched me and they’re like the kind of message me saying like hey I kind of get want to get to know you and 

 

Sinead: wait, oh yeah we can take it there 

 

Shalom: yeah they kind of wanted to get to know me I was like yeah I definitely want to know you too and so I talked to one guy and basically, the conversation was like hours apart like I was trying to play the game you know he’s just saying like okay like I’m going to try to text hours away from you know initially text well I guess I waited too long because I tried I answered like eight hours later and basically he didn’t answer back and I was like oh well forget that one and that was the one that I really liked and then the other one I was like okay so I was kind of talking to him more you know I basically told him about myself and stuff like that and then I kind of got a little weird 

 

Sinead and Shasha: what do you mean?

 

Shalom: So you know it was like basic conversations one word and one like yeah I do this I do that and then it was weird I think he was talking about we’re talking about camp right and then I told the story when we went camping back in 2014. 

 

Sinead: yeah 

 

Shalom: and so I did this wrong rant and it was basically out of character between my other texts that I did 

 

Sinead: You did a long rant?

 

Shalom: of camp yes it was super long

 

Sinead: like a bad rap about how you hated it or like 

 

Shalom: Yeah and it almost sounded slightly kiddish by the way I was testing it and then I think he got so turned off he was like oh okay like it was basically like okay bye and it never answered back and I was like okay forget it this is not for me 

 

Shasha: What?

 

Sinead: oh my goodness do you think it was spammy?

 

Shalom: no no no no because like the other conversations 

 

Sinead: she really hates camp

 

Shalom: no because like the private conversation I was talking you know kind of normal one-worded text you know 

 

Sinead: yeah like short sentences like small talk then all of a sudden

 

Shalom: but that one I decided on 

 

Shasha: he was like I triggered her

 

[Laughter]

 

Sinead: oh my goodness well at least you got two guys to message you but I did I get no messages after meeting like how many people did I think of 30 or more

 

Shalom: right right

 

Shasha: yeah I thought that was most people that went there though I mean Sinead you think that all of them got messaged back?

 

Sinead: maybe maybe not I don’t know but all I know is that I got nobody to message me back 

 

Shasha: I’m just saying

 

Sinead: I mean I didn’t message anybody anyways but I’m saying like

 

Shalom: well it’s their loss it’s their loss they don’t know what they lost okay?

 

Shasha: I gotta be honest, you really want to date someone up completely like a stranger from online?

 

Sinead: I don’t know you know honestly because you know that we have a friend that actually met someone online they’re getting married and it turns out like they actually have the same background and everything they meant online 

 

Shasha: oh 

 

Sinead: yeah so like online relationships could work out depending on the person

 

Shasha: I feel like speed dating now 

 

Sinead: speed dating don’t know about speed dating because literally, I’m telling you most of those conversations will be like so what’s your name how do you pronounce your name sinead Schneed Schneider sneeze Schneider no like honestly like what 

 

Shalom: at least you were the topic 

 

Sinead: either that was like how was your day I’m good nice um you like marvel movies yeah but what I’m sorry like

 

Shasha: yeah you can’t get married over speed dating guys

 

Sinead: I don’t know maybe it was me failing with the conversation may be another side I don’t know all I’m saying is that I kept my energy up as much as I could but by the end of it I was like no no 

 

Shalom: yeah yeah this is why I don’t think i

could deal with like things like tinder

or anything like that 

 

Sinead: yeah that’s a whole other beast out there 

 

Shalom: Yeah I mean like I like when people like to say that you know they met through Twitter because I don’t know I feel like that’s even a little bit more accurate

 

Sinead: you can’t see yeah but sometimes people don’t post their faces on Twitter so I don’t

understand that yeah

 

Shalom: no but they post their family sometimes like and themselves I feel like it’s a little more personal than Instagram it’s like a whole persona that you’re just like 

 

Sinead: I guess but you know people on Twitter have a persona too though I don’t know maybe it is more honest I just never really heard of a Twitter relationship worked

 

Shalom: Are you kidding me? I hear so much 

 

Sinead: well you know what I see people meet through Twitter, I do see that 

 

Shalom: yeah so much, well I have another embarrassing story

 

Sinead: Why do you have a lot of embarrassing stories?

 

Shalom: I just think about it you guys just like to block it off 

 

Sinead: well I just have like smaller ones like awkward conversations like I remember this one conversation and I’ll tell you later I let you tell your story first

 

Shasha: wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait tell us 

 

Shalom: yeah I want to hear yours

 

Sinead: yeah I just remember one time this is the same guy I just I remember one time he was like he came to me he was like hey what’s up you know we had this regular small talk conversation it was going so well and then it got going and then it got quiet for a second I didn’t know what to do but you know as a young teenager I’m like okay when in doubt ask what your favorite thing is I was like what’s your favorite movie genre he looked at me like what are you doing?

 

Shasha: wait, so instead of being a normal person who gradually gets up to like the first thing we like doing your free time on movies or you know you just burst out?

 

Sinead: I just burst out with what’s your favorite, no and there was a long pause of silence before that so and then I was like what’s your favorite movie genre? and he was like uh he answered I can’t remember what his answer was but then after that, he was like I got someone i

gotta talk to so I’m like I gotta go and be like I was like bye

 

Shalom: but I can tell that that same guy really liked you because remember the time when we were like we were all in a prayer circle right you know at the end of our Sabbath school, yeah and then like I had to do something I was you know you know

 

Sinead: you were right like here you were beside me yes 

 

Shalom: yeah I was 

 

Sinead: behind me 

 

Shalom: yeah I was beside you and you and he were holding hands about and we’re about to bow our heads and I had to move something I don’t know what I had to move but then I went between you and him as they as you guys were holding hands. 

 

Sinead: What?

 

Shalom: yes I went in between you guys and then he was like what is this and then he just moved aside and went to hold your hand on the other side because no one’s holding your hand on that side

 

Sinead: wait I didn’t you know see I remember that day because like I was like oh wow we’re holding hands whatever that kind of thing I was like but I remember I only remembered the part

where he held my hands on this side I didn’t even know that you had come between us on the other side like yeah

 

Shalom: yeah because I didn’t want to hold those strangers hands

 

Shasha: can you guys simplify the story I’m like what is going on 

 

Sinead: okay we were gonna do a whole prayer circle kind of thing Shalom was standing right next to me on my left she left to do something and he took the opportunity to hold my hand on my left.

 

Shasha: oh

 

Sinead: but then shalom came back stepped right in between us and then held my hand instead and he was like what in his head I guess and then he went around and just held my hand on the other side but I didn’t really realize that at the moment I just thought that 

 

Shalom: and by the way you guys for those who don’t know we had like these prayer circles where everyone would just hold their hands and just like bow your heads.

 

Sinead: yeah the whole youth group

 

Shasha: You know what Shalom that’s so funny how you just discharged them

 

Shalom: no I was oblivious I was totally, no I’m very oblivious and it was like remember that time we were at this other church in Florida right, and this guy and his girlfriend were sitting together right yeah and I didn’t know it at the time but like and then I as we entered into another sabbath school I went to go sit like in between them 

 

Sinead: why did you? how in the world?

 

Shalom: I’m very oblivious I don’t know why

 

Sinead: Shalom you’re telling me you saw two people sitting together and you’re like I’m gonna sit right in between them 

 

Shalom: and then it wasn’t until later I was like oh they’re dating when I saw them like talking about it

 

Sinead: Oh my goodness why are you

 

Shasha: You’re so funny 

 

Sinead: Why do you do this to yourself?

 

Shalom: I don’t know I honestly don’t know it’s like a

 

Shasha: what if they’re brother and sister though?

 

Shalom: no they’re really dating 

 

Shasha: no but they just sit next to each other they could be brother and sister you know

 

Sinead: but even brother and sister wouldn’t be weird if someone came up to us and just sat right in between us like

 

Shalom: I know because as sisters

 

Shasha: there’s like a free seat there’s a free seat 

 

Sinead: was there a free seat? or did you just like it?

 

Shalom: it was crowded and I was like oh like empty space

 

Shasha: yeah yeah I don’t see it as bad

 

Sinead: oh my goodness 

 

Shasha: it’s that empty space

 

Shalom: no but they both stared at me like what the

 

Shasha: well they should have been they shouldn’t have been um staying apart

 

Shalom: valid but still

 

Sinead: you feel awkward no but I don’t even think it was it was an empty seat or was it 

 

Shalom: it was sort of empty but I kind of was squeezing between them

 

Sinead: Shalom!

 

Shasha: Okay, I keep on trying to defend you but

 

Sinead: she’s really trying her best to defend you here man

 

Shasha: That is so much!

 

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Shasha: ah my stomach hurts, the more you talk about it the more it gets worse

 

Shalom: that’s such a little story

 

Sinead: I know that’s okay 

 

Shalom: you must just forget it but still

 

Sinead: the little things 

 

Shasha: no I’ve never heard this one 

 

Sinead: but me either I’ve never heard this

 

Shalom: I think you know them 

 

Shasha: no 

 

Shalom: I think one of them went to the college with you 

 

Sinead: no are you no was it really them?

 

Shalom: it was a girl, not the guy 

 

Shasha: you’re speaking in code

 

Shalom: no but you know what she looks like 

 

Sinead: okay okay oh yeah

 

Shasha: it’s on you say if they see you again

 

Shalom: no she’s graduated she’s long graduated

 

Shasha: trying to ruin a romantic moment

 

Shalom: have you guys ever done like accidentally

 

Sinead: accidentally like what get in the way of someone else’s relationship

 

Shalom: I don’t know I don’t even want to say that but like awkwardly

 

Sinead: okay 

 

Shasha: Shalom go running through while holding hands

 

Sinead: you’re going in between a couple no Shalom you seem like the opposite of the matchmaker here.

 

Shalom: I didn’t do it on purpose, you guys!

 

Sinead: Oh my goodness

 

Shasha: just kidding that was funny 

 

Shalom: oh yeah I remember when I was younger we’re at grandma’s house and this pastor came and he was a pretty young man and I was very curious about him I don’t know why as he was about to leave I asked him are you married and do you have children I asked and then my mom our mom and dad they were like whoa whoa

 

Shasha and Sinead: how old are you?

 

Shalom: I was very young but I wasn’t even doing that and out of interest in hey I was like I was very curious about this I was like hey like do you have children my age like I was just asking that 

 

Sinead: oh did you say that or did you say do you have children?

 

Shalom: no I think I asked are you married or do you have children it was one of those questions but it was just it was very very weird as a young person 

 

Sinead: that is a very interesting question to ask I just been hearing all these stories I never heard of

 

Shasha: that’s funny I thought you wait did you actually, say do you have any playmates 

 

Sinead: no no no she said do you have children are you married do you have children 

 

Shalom: no I think I asked are you married it was one of those because I was curious to see if you had kids my age because you know how you just like when adults come over there you know you’re always thinking like hey yeah maybe they brought home their children so we can you know hang out 

 

Sinead: okay but like that’s just I don’t think that you worded it right

 

Shalom: no I didn’t I did it I was very young I would say a lot of out of pocket stuff like 

 

Sinead: Why do you have somebody’s stories?

 

Shalom: one time we were at grandma and grandpa’s house and we just finished watching this Christmas movie and during the Christmas movie the children were crafted in this cabin and they had that Christmas in the cabin 

 

Sinead: okay 

 

Shalom: and I was very distraught and as we were about to leave I asked grandma and grandpa mom and dad they’re all in there and then they’re about to leave like mom what if we could crash our car then we get stuck in the cabin and then all the dust look at each other and they laughed and I was embarrassed and I just walked away 

 

Sinead: oh no

 

Shalom: that’s sad and funny

 

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Shasha: this didn’t happen to me but something embarrassing that happened in my school someone peed on someone

 

Sinead: I didn’t know they didn’t expect you to bring that up

 

Shasha: it’s a large I think of an embarrassing story 

 

Shalom: it’s more than here’s the thing I reach into the subconscious of my mind and I embrace that memory

 

Sinead: Oh I know I remember 

 

Shasha: Wait, can I tell a story?

 

Sinead: yeah tell your story 

 

Shasha: yeah so I was just sitting in class and then the guy came in and he had it was wet all over his shirt guys it was so sad he was like and then the guy okay first of all now that I’m old I’m like how’d the guy pee on him?

 

Shalom: no because you know-how in those boys bathrooms there’s like this open sink

 

Shasha: he was soaked how did it happen

 

Shalom: Shasha you know how boys like to play they like to like fool around especially at that age he probably was like

 

Shasha: That was so mean! Like a hose?

 

Sinead: Oh my goodness

 

Shasha: anyways he looked really guilty and I don’t know what happened to him I was

like oh shoot that was sad 

 

Shalom: okay so you’ve reached into your subconscious and you reached a memory of someone else’s embarrassment

 

Sinead: someone else’s embarrassment, oh wow Shasha do you not get embarrassed?

 

Shasha: I don’t remember getting embarrassed, oh one time I wasn’t in someone it was a church we used to go at I walked in on someone going to the bathroom but that wasn’t embarrassing for me I was more like oh man I shouldn’t have done that but I that was more embarrassing for that person 

 

Sinead: man I feel like that you have like a wheel of steel like emotions of steel where you don’t get embarrassed easily because I feel like that I get embarrassed but I just push it out of my mind I’ll never remember it again

 

Shalom: you see it you’re getting pretty high jokes at the thanksgiving Christmas or Christmas table you just pushed away all the funny memories

 

Sinead: i literally 

 

Shasha: first you guys do it to yourself you did not have to say what’s been moving you didn’t have to run away 

 

Sinead: you did not have to run away man that was 

 

Shalom: oh that’s on you though let’s focus on you 

 

Sinead: look look look can you guys bring up anything that I’ve said exactly so I don’t really have any I can’t think of any more embarrassing stories that I remember because I just don’t 

 

Shasha: not just boys in general like in general 

 

Sinead: not in general, I’m trying to think of times I’ve gotten embarrassed I literally push it out of my mind 

 

Shasha: oh remember when we were on the first day of our church um we were throwing up all-day

 

Shalom: I would say that that’s more sad more than that it’s embarrassing

 

Sinead: are you kidding my first time going to a new place with a bunch of new people a bunch of the people our age and they’re like wow the new pastor’s kids are here and we’re just throwing up we’re laying on the old woman next to us and she’s like she’s patting our heads like it’s okay man 

 

Shasha: but you know 

 

Sinead: we’re throwing up in the bathroom a couple every five minutes you don’t think it’s embarrassing 

 

Shasha: but that’s not really embarrassing we didn’t care we were just still sick 

 

Shalom: yeah I was too sick to care

 

Sinead: I mean that’s facts, but I’m just saying

 

Shasha: That’s not embarrassing 

 

Shalom: and by the way guys this all happened because we ate old supermarket food 

 

Sinead: yeah

 

Shasha: yeah I know another time I got really sick and threw up all day I ate chicken pot pie I used to not be I guess vegetarian so I ate that and I never ate chicken pot pie again okay 

 

Sinead: she gets triggered every time we said chicken pot pie

 

Shasha: I’m like, please please don’t, just call by the initials don’t even say the word literally 

 

Shalom: but why is it that the younger you are the more you throw up and then the older you are like you just never throw up

 

Shasha: that’s so true why is that well I don’t understand how Shalom doesn’t throw up every day because of the food sometimes she cooks it’s ridiculous

 

Sinead: She’s eating wild food.

 

Shasha: like dates and

 

Sinead: dates and avocado what is that?

 

Shalom: dates avocado with potato chips dip try it it’s good okay?

 

Shasha: Do you really have to put on oatmeal?

 

Sinead: no no

 

Shalom: yes! it’s good 

 

Sinead: no cause oatmeal’s already stiff enough

 

Shalom: no because it’s because it gets creamy

 

Sinead: no no it just gets even stiffer 

 

Shalom: you guys don’t listen to them I am a great chef 

 

Shasha: she’s a great chef but

 

Shalom: they don’t have an acquired taste 

 

Sinead: yeah you have to have a Shalom taste buds palette or something

 

Shalom: it’s good okay compared to me who is creative but compared to you who’s bland as

 

Shasha: yeah yeah 

 

Sinead: okay okay you don’t have to use that word you don’t say I’m bland 

 

Shalom: yes you are bland I literally see you take a piece of bread and just eat it like no butter no jam no nothing

 

Sinead: look sometimes you gotta do to just keep eating at least Shasha, she eats little pockets of things that are good throughout the day and you know she has a good choice of what she eats she even spices it up a little bit but you 

 

Sinead: look just because I can eat a salad without salad dressing does not mean you have to eat 

 

Shasha: ew that’s disgusting

 

Shalom: That’s disgusting 

 

Sinead: no because you know why because I just want to get it over with when I eat a salad I don’t want to like I don’t care to like spice it up or everything I’ll just be like okay I’m just shoveling this into my mouth and then pause and then I’ll just eat it quickly and that’s it because like I want to get to the other good food that’s why that’s what I do when I’m eating blandly 

 

Shasha: that’s like drinking water without seasoning at first

 

Sinead: what 

 

Shasha: you know okay okay so have you guys

been on tick-tock where the woman says

you know um this is how you season water

you put whipped cream

jelly beans and a whole bunch of other

stuff display with the water 

 

Sinead: I’ve never seen that in my life you’re capping 

 

Shasha: no I’m not I’m not capping you guys you guys see that her children don’t want to drink water it’s like what’s it called an s-a-t-i-r-e where it says

 

Shalom: satire 

 

Sinead: Saturn

 

Shalom: no you know how when it’s a comedy you know you don’t want to 

 

Sinead: oh satire 

 

Shasha: yes a satire comedy and she’s like my children don’t like to drink water so I put whip cream jelly beans and a whole bunch of stuff you guys comment down below you know what I’m talking about

 

Sinead: I’ve never heard of that

 

Shasha: it’s like a way of flavoring your water

 

Shalom: that’s so disgusting I probably didn’t like water when I was growing up but now I love the water I love water 

 

Sinead: water is the adult drink you know you’re an adult when you like water 

 

Shalom: I don’t even like juice anymore 

 

Shasha: me i like juice but every now and then it’s not a dude 

 

Sinead: it doesn’t hit as much as water ice-cold water

 

Shalom: Ice-cold water

 

Sinead: I know y’all don’t do you all

rock with room temperature water?

 

Shalom: I do 

 

Shasha: no

 

Shalom: I do no that’s when you’re an adult when you just don’t care about cold water anymore

 

Shasha: what do you mean? making stuff up now 

 

Shalom: no literally like you really want to wait a couple of hours for it to be cold-cold?

 

Shasha: yes 

 

Shalom: you guys 

 

Shasha: I’m more thirsty if I drink warm water

 

Sinead: that’s facts I don’t I will it doesn’t quench my thirst

 

Shalom: I don’t know I just think that’s healthy to drink temperature water

 

Shasha: you’re making stuff up now

 

Shalom: oh man 

 

Sinead: oh my goodness I have a question, what do you think is the best tip to say not embarrassed by anything?

 

Shasha: oh man

 

Shalom: you don’t I always think in your head people don’t care about you they care about themselves and with how they’re embarrassed 

 

Sinead: that is facts that are actually facts people are not really thinking about how the man they must be really embarrassed right now um unless they’re like a bully or something like haha I care about how much how embarrassed they are but like a regular person doesn’t think like a man they must be so embarrassed right now and they think about it for the rest of their lives no they actually don’t they’re not excited am I embarrassed

 

Shalom: wait actually I actually remember this one time

 

Shasha: another story?

 

Shalom: no-no but it’s like a very very lesser story I was entering this building on this college campus and this girl called out to me and she was like hey and she waved and I kind of wave back I was like hi and she’s like hi and I was like hello and then she’s like hi and I was like hi and I just like run away because I thought it was a little weird 

 

Shasha: wait wait 

 

Shalom: so maybe I do remember some people here I know she was embarrassed but I was embarrassed for her 

 

Shasha: why would she say hi?

 

Sinead: why were you embarrassed for her?  

 

Shalom: I think she was I think she mistakes me for someone else

 

Sinead: oh

 

Shasha: what?

 

Shalom: so you know how I just said that you know people don’t remember your embarrassing thing I remember her embarrassing

 

Shasha: that is so funny 

 

Sinead: Okay, in general people don’t remember other people’s embarrassing moments like the kid in Shasha’s grade who was soaked by you know and someone waving hi to someone who thought of someone else in general besides that people don’t remember your embarrassing

moments and I guess I’m trying to help people out make them feel like people are always watching 

 

Shasha: wait, what if she was just trying to say hi 

 

Shalom: no but it was why was she 

 

Sinead: yeah it sounds like she was saying hi like she knew her what if the embarrassing thing is that you actually didn’t know her and you just didn’t remember her 

 

Shalom: no because I saw this person in my life 

 

Shasha: well

how much enough you forgot

 

Shalom: I’m homeschooled I don’t remember most people I mean people I don’t meet a lot of people 

 

Shasha: that’s true 

 

Shalom: well any other tips on yeah just move on don’t dwell on it tomorrow is another day 

 

Shasha: right focus on in the present 

 

Sinead: but also when you embrace those embarrassing moments and be like ah that was a funny thing that happened to me and then that’s it like see it as literally just a funny thing that happened to you like

 

Shalom: exactly 

 

Sinead: you know see it as like a Reddit story that you just laugh at right it doesn’t have to be a huge deal because usually, it doesn’t necessarily completely change your life it’s just one you know small embarrassing moments happening at all of us even if I don’t remember it I feel like I blocked them all out but that’s okay in fact do what I do block it all out just forget it

 

Shasha: exactly 

 

Shalom: or embrace it and become a comedian or embrace it and become a comedian that’s a fact people love funny people guys if you’re funny I will love you I love funny I’m gonna marry a funny person because literally, I need that

 

Sinead: I feel like you’re already a funny person

 

Shalom: thank you that’s such a huge compliment you guys honestly when you embrace certain things that make me see that you are a confident person 

 

Sinead: that’s true because being a comedian you have to embrace every part of your life and be able to make it into a story a joke but there’s a sad moment the funny moments embarrassing moments the happy moments the awkward moments you got to embrace like all of those things you know and make it into comedy and that just shows that you’re confident in whatever you went through no matter what it is 

 

Shalom: yeah you see Shasha I see I love you know the confidence that you show even though you don’t get embarrassed I love the fact because 

 

Shasha: no but you’re more confident because you know why only if you’re tested a lot see if you’ve tested a lot with embarrassment and you’re confident like you sharing your stories that’s confidence 

 

Sinead: yeah if you were embarrassed you wouldn’t if you were still embarrassed about it you wouldn’t share those stories anymore like you’d be like 

 

Shalom: but I feel like that’s one element of you know confidence I feel like your confidence is that you don’t dwell on anything and even if you can’t really 

 

Sinead: you don’t overthink, you definitely don’t overthink

 

Shasha: It never happened to me though, you can’t overthink something if never happened to you 

 

Sinead: are you

sure it never happened or it’s happened

and you just don’t overthink it?

 

Shasha: no never happened I don’t, never happen

 

Shalom: but you know being embarrassed it’s a choice I honestly

feel like that’s a choice 

 

Sinead: really?

 

Shalom: yeah

 

Shasha: oh that’s controversial 

 

Sinead: no I think it is I don’t think you don’t have to be embarrassed if someone falls you can choose to be embarrassed or you cannot choose or choose not to 

 

Shasha: wait what was the emotions in Riley’s head 

 

Shalom: Riley’s

head? 

 

Sinead: in inside out?

 

Shasha: yeah 

 

Shalom: there’s fear sadness 

 

Sinead: disgust 

 

Shalom: disgust, anger, and joy 

 

Sinead: yeah

 

Shasha: so there’s no embarrassment 

 

Shalom: embarrassment is like, it can fall into one of the categories

 

Sinead: embarrassing like a mix of fear because embarrassment is like fearing what people are thinking of you basically, that’s what embarrassment really is 

 

Shasha: oh that’s true

 

Shalom: and that’s what I think and that’s what I find from you you don’t feel like other people think 

 

Sinead: you do not care what other people think and I think that’s why you don’t have an embarrassment 

 

Shasha: why do you think they did disgust then 

 

Shalom: because I think disgust is like a 

 

Shasha: no disgust isn’t even an emotion 

 

Sinead: it is 

 

Shalom: it is I saw this documentary actually where Pete doctor I think he directed inside out and he was talking about how he was studying emotions and how why he chose those five emotions actually 

 

Shasha: but disgust is such a minor oh by the way I don’t even touch what you guys said thank you guys know thank you so much for complimenting me on that I’m just still wondering though disgusting it isn’t even a big emotion like 

 

Sinead: oh wait now I remember another embarrassing story 

 

Shalom: really 

 

Sinead: sorry continue

 

Shasha: oh you know Marley’s staying where it was like a new memory like the vault

 

Sinead: oh yeah the new memory vault 

 

Shasha: You’re remembering it

 

Shalom: I love that oh wait before we move on okay so we talked about me and we talked even though you block out memories I’m glad that you don’t dwell on it and that’s the other thing that’s confident like you just don’t dwell in the past

 

Sinead: yeah because I don’t think I blocked it out because I was that embarrassed I just genuinely don’t remember

 

Shasha: oh yeah

 

Sinead: Things that don’t feel important to me I genuinely just don’t know terrible memory honestly 

 

Shalom: no no you don’t

 

Shasha: tell quickly then before you forget 

 

Sinead: oh no yeah yeah i

 

Shasha: if you want to say it 

 

Sinead: yeah no this is more of an awkward moment like basically the same guy

 

Shalom: the same guy wow this guy’s been through it

 

Sinead: the same guy so there was like a whole event down like you know we had those you know social events or whatever and he was there and I said hi to him we talked a little bit and this other girl comes right and she says hi to him because we haven’t seen him in a while she says hi to him she gives him a hug or whatever then he turns to me and of course it’s loud in this social okay i can’t really hear him well so he says something right and I’m okay this is a complicated story because i’m preoccupied I’m opening a candy cane and i know this sounds really good it sounds really random but I’m opening a candy cane for my little brother at the moment who was like open this for me you know with this little kid voice open this for me while he’s hugging this other girl right then he turns back to me and he says something I’m like you want a candy cane and I’m like he’s like what and he’s like no I was like where’s my hug I was like awkward side hugs and finished opening the candy cane gave it to my little brother

 

Shasha: you’re very helpful you’re very helpful

 

Sinead: no but like it’s the fact that I was like you want a candy cane

 

Shasha: wait why did Shiloh have his candy cane 

 

Sinead: no no no I was just like I was probably gonna tell them where the candy canes were like you know

 

Shalom: that’s my first time hearing that

 

Sinead: oh my goodness that was one that just kind of came to me right now

 

Shalom: that is so funny 

 

Sinead: oh my goodness 

 

Shasha: you’re very confident

 

Sinead: what do you mean

 

Shasha: I mean

 

Shalom: I think he liked it I think he liked your personality

 

Sinead: what my awkwardness?

 

Shalom: yeah I think it was cute

 

Sinead: I’m just you know what you said just said you’re oblivious I’m just oblivious because I was like

 

Shasha: no Shalom, you’re not oblivious if you were oblivious you wouldn’t have noticed that he was trying to hide his face 

 

Sinead: yeah that’s true

 

Shasha: you were very aware

 

Sinead: yeah the fact that you were aware of that you caught the details of that 

 

Shalom: it wasn’t two years later until I was like oh he was hiding from me okay

 

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Shalom: so guys the topics here embarrassment how to deal with the embarrassment 

 

Sinead: and some other random topics that were kind of thrown in like how some of us eat very bland and some of us eat very weirdly 

 

Shalom: and like throw up for some reason 

 

Sinead: yeah okay yeah this was quite an all-over place kind of 

 

Shalom: no but I feel like the main thing was embarrassment embarrassing awkward moments

 

Shasha: I have a question for you guys comment on your embarrassing balls

 

Shalom: yeah 

 

Sinead: yeah cause you know what I kinda want to read it I want to read your embarrassing like any embarrassing or awkward moments that anybody wants to share 

 

Shalom: and then we can react to it

 

Sinead: I would react to it 

 

Shasha: and whoever has the best embarrassing moment gets pinned in the comments 

 

Sinead: yeah

 

Shalom: I think so all right

 

Sinead: so uh thank you guys for joining us in this podcast we will see you in the next episode 

 

Everyone: bye

Listen to this podcast episode here: https://spoti.fi/3dxRLrm

 

Mirthell: like the grocery stores are there is a shortage in the grocery store there’s a lack of products that you’re having I know like I’m not even talking about like toilet paper like how everyone was running on toilet paper there is a shortage of food there is a shortage of supplies

 

Shalom: do you think it’s worse than when it was in 2020 at the be at the height of Covid 

 

Mirthell: absolutely

 

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Rita: Hello and welcome back to the onyx a family podcast where we talk about issues that families care about today we’re going to be talking about made on Netflix and how that was really triggering for at least me and probably the family because we’ve gone through a lot of those things and we’re going to talk about what’s happening right now with all the supply shortages worker shortages and then we’re going to end off with how do you prepare for what

could be coming okay so guys who watched made me know Shiloh didn’t but who here did?

 

Shalom: I watch maid 

 

Shasha: I did too wait

 

Sinead: Did you finish it? I finished it?

 

Shalom: I did finish it.

 

Sinead: oh man I still have like three more episodes or four more episodes

 

Rita: really?

 

Sinead: yeah 

 

Rita: I need to just binge it, oh I would love if I had three or four more episodes I loved that show I was just we were just hooked 

 

Mirthell: yeah we were hooked yeah definitely binge that

 

Shasha: I feel like a lot of people were hooked because it was so realistic

 

Rita: oh yeah absolutely 

 

Shiloh: so since I didn’t watch it can you guys explain to me what mate is 

 

Rita: Sure Maid is a series on Netflix and it follows a girl and her mother but mostly a young lady who has a child who is about two years old?

 

Sinead: yes about two years old 

 

Rita: and the financial struggles that she goes through once she breaks up with uh the father of the child and so she goes from um homeless well she goes to a domestic violence shelter and then she’s transferred from there to like this temporary housing to a more permanent place but the ups and the downs and especially the red tape with the government and trying to get benefits 

 

Sinead: and how twisted the benefits are like we’re like I remember seeing a part where she had to get something like she had to get a job but she had to have a job to prove she had a job she had to get a job to get a job 

 

Rita: oh yeah 

 

Sinead: it was weird like how do you get a job to get a job 

 

Rita: right the acting was phenomenal

 

Sinead: I do like her acting and 

 

Rita: I love that mother the mother Andy McDowell she was just like she needs an oscar

 

Shasha: isn’t she the woman from groundhog day? I looked it up it is her groundhog day

 

Rita: yeah it is her and on Maid, the mother and daughter are literally mother and daughter in real life

 

Sinead: Wait, are you serious?

 

Mirthell: yeah that’s why they had good chemistry

 

Sinead: oh snap I did not know that

 

Rita: yeah but it was really good but I want to go back

 

Mirthell: so, what was it a show about poverty do you think that that was one of the main reasons why they even did the show because you know every show has sort of an agenda 

 

Sinead: an underlying story like moral

 

Mirthell: right, an online story do you think that showing poverty and the difficulty in America?

 

Rita: I think in America for me it had a lot of themes one is how do you gain your independence after uh we’re breaking up 

 

Mirthell: and with a female

 

Rita: you know yeah and I think another one was yeah how do you navigate the system that is very confusing

 

Shasha: I thought it was going to be all about what was it called again trying to get our child back that’s it I literally when it ended in episode two I was like wait that’s it what’s the rest of the season

 

Rita: Right

 

Sinead: well I thought the whole thing just from the title was just about her being a maid she’s hardly cleaning like she’s like like what I mean like they don’t show that between people

 

Mirthell: but I think that they wanted to show a blue-collar worker from a female perspective and how they hustle to make it works for their family

 

Shalom: right 

 

Rita: yes I for me I actually really like reading books about these types of topics I remember years ago I read nickel and dimed the author that wrote that barbara I think Heinrich, i have to look at her last name but um she’s written a couple of other books that I’m currently reading right now and it’s always about people who are overlooked in society people who people tend to take for granted and it’s it’s just really stunning because you really think about life a lot of times within your bubble and when you’re exposed to what other people are going through it really helps me and I think everybody who understands it to really say wow okay now how am I going to treat this person or this circumstance if I come upon this so for example after reading nickel and dimed and that was many years ago and this is even before we had you know our life change with what we’re doing right now even as a nurse I would always tip people very very high

 

Mirthell: right

 

Rita: after reading that book and I understood

 

Mirthell: and why?

 

Rita: because in nickel and dime to talk about how there are people who work as waitresses in the food industry and how basically they really live off of the tips it’s not really based off of the salary it’s the tips

 

Sinead: right but that’s isn’t that more of an American thing?

 

Rita: yeah definitely just an American thing

 

Shalom: yeah I heard that I heard in different countries that if you tip you’re actually insulting them

 

Mirthell: right when I went to Italy they’re really not into tips yeah I know in fact I gave a pretty large tip and they’re just like oh no no no this is too big 

 

Rita: yeah I feel like that’s what shows well that’s where going back to the Maid that’s the issue is that there are so many things that are great about America but there are so many things that we need to work on we need to fix and one of them is why are people living off of just the tips and those tips are split too 

 

Mirthell: yeah 

 

Rita: and a lot of those places 

 

Shalom: but remember when we talked about a couple of months ago or was it last year how you know how the tipping system ever made

 

Rita: yeah 

 

Mirthell: yeah how was it well how was it made?

 

Shalom: well basically it was like I think it was in the 30s that it was established how African Americans because they were paid so poorly that they made the whole tipping system was they able to you know receive money only just by tips

 

Mirthell: really I didn’t know that that was it started with you know African American workers

 

Rita: yeah there are so many things that we don’t really realize and 

 

Mirthell: but it’s definitely not um minimum wage and that’s that that is a problem

 

Rita: well it’s less than minimum wage that’s

 

Mirthell: yeah it’s a lot less than minimum wage and I and I just think that there should be a minimum wage for waiters and waitresses and for people in the food industry 

 

Rita: but right going back to um like even made now there was a part where she was in the court remember that and remember when the wording

 

Sinead: yeah legal legal legal yeah illegal 

 

Rita: what do you guys think about that explain that to our audience what was going on

 

Sinead: so basically she was in court fighting for the custody of her daughter and the thing is that she was not really experienced in court so everything’s going over her head in here one ear out the other

 

Rita: because she represented herself too, she didn’t even have a lawyer 

 

Mirthell: she couldn’t afford a lawyer

 

Rita: right 

 

Sinead: right and it was kind of last-minute too they kind of just sprung it on her so she couldn’t even prepare herself so basically the scene went from you know so have you been finding housing for her to have you been legally her legally legal the legal did you legal the legal with her

 

Rita: right 

 

Sinead: stuff like that 

 

Mirthell: that was hilarious I like that part

 

Rita: and the other lawyer was going well my client is legally legal fully legally legal and this client over here is not legal at all like it was just like 

 

Shalom: but what I thought about it was that okay they did so well with the beginning in terms of different editings like that but I just wish they had some sort of continuation with that like you know finding different edits along with you know yeah because I was like the first two-three episodes but after that, there was like 

 

Mirthell: it was just a clever way 

 

Sinead: to capture the attention 

 

Mirthell: to capture your attention was funny but it was just a clever way of basically showing the court proceedings and how ridiculous it is you’re not going to understand it even if basically even if they said what was actually going on behind the scenes with the legal jargon, we would not have understood so they just basically said illegal legal legal 

 

Sinead: yeah that’s true

 

Rita: even when she was going through her paperwork when she got it from the yeah from her um what do you call the person? maybe her

 

Sinead: child

 

Rita: what do you call it what do you call it not advocate um this is the person her benefit worker

the person she goes to that helps her with her benefits and she had this stack of papers and they’re like finish it by tomorrow she’s like how am I supposed to go through it and then she was going through it and you can see the titles of the papers change too you’re not gonna ever understand all this you’re so dumb and all sorts of stuff because she that’s how people feel obviously when we see those stacks of paperwork and this let me tell you why that scene was very triggering for me because growing up Mirthell and me, we were you know middle the class you know we both were in our homes we just you know I never really struggled it was after I got married and we got married young that we started to really learn about whoa this is the real world and it’s and it was hard for many years because I was still going to school to get my degree my college degree um and I was having children at the same time he was working you know just started off as a pastor and we didn’t have a lot of money at all and the thing is for a time when he was in the seminary we were really struggling at first in fact we went into a breadline remember?

 

Mirthell: yeah

 

Rita: it was like a circle they said okay everybody they got all the pastor’s wives there and they were like okay everybody goes into a circle and we’re gonna hand out there are these rolls and I was like oh this is so cool we’re gonna get bread so okay you know I stood there and everybody got bread and I was like oh man I’m gonna need more than this I got like at the time I don’t think I had no I didn’t even know I was I don’t even know if I knew if I was pregnant with Shasha you were pregnant but you just I didn’t know yeah but I was like I think I had like two pieces and I’m like no I’m gonna need more like I have two kids at home so I went back in the circle and they were they did not like that, you were here already you can’t have you can’t get another one and I was like oh I didn’t know it was like one time

 

Mirthell: She didn’t know they had rules 

 

Rita: Yeah and they went and they got so mad at me and this was like my first foray into that world 

 

Mirthell: we started looking for different pantries to get more food different places that would help out people 

 

Rita: but no but remember we went to that one and they gave you like a bag and they’re like

whatever can fit in this bag you can take so we had this challenge right because without the reward.

 

Shasha: that sounds like a Mr. beast challenge 

 

Rita: yeah

 

Shalom: I didn’t know that we were struggling this much 

 

Rita: well because when we were at the seminary I wasn’t working yet well I think I might have just started to work as a cashier and and daddy wasn’t even having his full um salary paycheck salary it was like a stipend and so we were really struggling plus we were both in school at the time

 

Mirthell: but that’s when I found out that if you’re a middle-class person um making above a certain amount even if it’s just slightly above a certain amount, there’s no help for you there are no services there are no government services there are no community services it’s almost as though the only people that really have a lot of help are those that are severely below the poverty line or well if you’re wealthy then it doesn’t matter 

 

Rita: right but at that point in time we did get help because we were really down there because we were students 

 

Mirthell: yeah

 

Rita: and so someone said Rita why don’t you just apply and get food stamps

 

Sinead: food stamps?

 

Rita: and I was like oh okay so 

 

Mirthell: that was the first time in our lives

 

Rita: I don’t remember how we went down to I guess wherever that place oh yeah we went down to the place where the workers benefits are just like how unmade and I went over there they gave me the paperwork I filled it out and it seemed pretty easy and by this time I found out

I was pregnant with Shasha actually that makes it a whole lot easier because you start getting like a snap I think um

 

Mirthell: WIC

 

Rita: you got WIC and some other stuff so basically wick makes allows you to get discounts is it discounts or do they pay for it I don’t remember now basically like formula diapers are it even diapers I don’t know it’s basically stuff for child care

 

Shiloh: is it a sponsor?

 

Rita: no it’s the government it’s government 

 

Shiloh: yeah but like you guys like you’re promoting it 

 

Rita: no because people should know that’s what I’m saying that’s what these podcasts are for now so that families understand like what’s available to them 

 

Sinead: right because you said you didn’t think about getting food stamps

 

Rita: people should,  exactly I didn’t know about that 

 

Mirthell: we had never we have never qualified for anything and then 

 

Rita: exactly because I think actually what happened was like I applied for WIC and applying for WIC somehow they also were able to now direct me now to get like the food stamps and so I got and I think what was it was it 400 or 600 a month?

 

Mirthell: it was good like if it was like it was 400 we were just super happy and this was like the 400 or 600 and I mean yeah I went I remember going to the grocery store I was just overwhelmed that I could actually buy food

 

Rita: oh yeah 

 

Mirthell: and it was just 

 

Rita: and not really be stressed about it because at that time 

 

Mirthell: I was buying for our neighbors

 

Rita: right 

 

Mirthell: I was buying for other people because I was just like well I have to share with you 

 

Rita: we’re not supposed to do that 

 

Mirthell: we’re not supposed to do it but I was like 

 

Rita: we had to because we had money left over and there were a lot of people who didn’t qualify who were struggling right they didn’t have any food and I remember we did that a few times and every time the person would be crying in thankfulness because they didn’t have the money so there were a lot of people struggling but okay so now I’m you know I have Shasha a year is done and now I’m like okay they’re like okay you want to re-up it and I was like oh what I wonder what other benefits there are and so I went for just like what do you call it just the benefits when you’re not working unemployment because you have to be employed and then I don’t even know so basically though I went to do what that woman on maid does 

 

Sinead: right right

 

Rita: and then that was when I got a rude awakening because I went to I guess the social worker who was working there and she was like you didn’t fill this outright and I was like well I don’t know what I’m supposed to do and she goes okay well you know you have to report here tomorrow at eight and I was like a report for what she goes well you have to be here to look for a job and you have to like go on the computer there and you have to document not the resumes that job applications proving that you have spent all day looking for a job and it has to be like eight hours a day for you to be able to go and get these benefits

 

Shalom: but you can’t do that as a young mother I mean

 

Rita: I was in school 

 

Shalom: and in school

 

Sinead: that is that’s literally it was impossible

 

Mirthell: it was messed up we weren’t on it for long 

 

Rita: no no 

 

Mirthell: after that, we were just like

 

Rita: a year to be honest I don’t remember 

 

Mirthell: I think you went and got a job at like 

 

Rita: yeah I started I went and I went and got it it was a cashier who started as a cashier then I started as an aide

 

Mirthell: Nurses aide

 

Rita: yeah

 

Sinead: And you’re saying that you actually did go at 8 a.m and everything though 

 

Rita: no no no no no no we just 

 

Sinead: okay because you said that we weren’t we’re on it long so I was assuming that that’s

 

Mirthell: no we weren’t on the food stamps or EBT card we weren’t right we just decided to go a different route but um but it’s really difficult it was really difficult we were in our 20s

 

Shalom: yeah because she was 25 when I went and made it I was wondering how old are you guys 

 

Rita: um I was about 20 a little bit younger because I hadn’t had Shasha 

 

Mirthell: 22

 

Rita: 22. 

 

Mirthell: so we were young we were definitely young when we were struggling I remember I remember getting gas and literally pumping like two dollars gas because that’s literally all I had so when I so in maid it would show like the money and the show the money going down and it just was this I remember those days where it was just yo

 

Sinead: I saw him when I saw her here’s two dollars I saw her pump two dollars I was like that is that really gonna do anything 

 

Shalom: no but when she went over the gas like pump I started panicking for it I was like oh no no

 

Rita: and that’s happened with that oh yeah that has definitely happened it’s been very frightening

 

Shiloh: when does the maid series take place?

 

Rita: now, this month

 

Mirthell: no it’s modern it was a water take but I remember those days these are tough times if I found five dollars in my pocket I would celebrate it would be just like a party like

 

Shalom: I remember that 

 

Mirthell: oh my goodness five dollars, yeah you know it was really rough 

 

Shasha: what was that thing she did when she was going in each house and they slammed the door at her what was she asking for?

 

Sinead: oh the TBRA or something like that that the t-bird oh let’s see 

 

Rita: I am not familiar with that but I guess it’s some sort of like government assistance so that people can afford rent so then the paperwork the landlord would have to fill out that a lot of people don’t necessarily like to do all these extra steps and they don’t feel like they get they don’t get, I would say the money from the government on time and on top of that they don’t feel like they’re going to get the right tenants

 

Shalom: okay so you guys think that the system has changed 20 years ago from now you know?

 

Mirthell: I think 20 years ago it was a lot harder

 

Rita: what? I still think it’s hard

 

Mirthell: I think it’s hard but for instance for an instance when they got dollar stores like I’m talking about the real dollar store I’m talking about dollar tree you know what I mean when you could get everything for one dollar that was huge walking in and being able to get like spaghetti 

 

Rita: yeah but I think the government all the paperwork the red tape I think is even worse now

 

Mirthell: That’s even worse now

 

Rita: I think that’s even worse

 

Mirthell: but like dollar stores, dollar stores now are like that really helps people we never had dollar stores way back 

 

Shasha: speaking of dollar store you saw on the news right?

 

Rita: what?

 

Shasha: they’re raising their price they already rolled their prices it’s not going to be just a dollar now

 

Rita and Shalom: wow

 

Mirthell: well a lot of them were like that like

 

Rita: not dollars, wasn’t it dollar tree?

 

Shasha: dollar trees raising the prices

 

Rita: wow 

 

Shiloh: what about family dollar family?

 

Sinead: Family dollar has always been always having different 

 

Mirthell: they’ve always had different prices 

 

Sinead: yeah 

 

Rita: so the dollar tree buyout or is it dollar general it’s one of them bought out family dollars 

 

Mirthell: dollar general always was, it was never a dollar store.

 

Sinead: yeah, only dollar tree was literally everything is one dollar.

 

Rita: first of all, do you guys remember dollar tree Christmas?

 

Everyone: yes yes 

 

Rita: someone tells the audience 

 

Sinead: dollar tree barbies for Christmas dollar tree decorations dollar tree food or dollar tree Christmas cookies 

 

Shiloh: so I’m confused was everything in there a dollar or was did everything that you have with a dollar like

 

Sinead: no no no everything in the store cost one dollar no matter what it was it was only one dollar

 

Shiloh: okay if you had two things would be two dollars 

 

Sinead: yes yes oh oh you you’re saying that you grab whatever you want and get it for one dollar? 

 

Rita: oh my goodness

 

Shiloh: that’s what I thought when I was younger

 

Sinead: no no

 

Rita: dollar store Christmas or dollar tree Christmas was great 

 

Mirthell: they were fun

 

Rita: it was fun it was just like going there the only thing is that for example, we bought you guys like a barbie house

 

Shalom: was it the one with the antenna on?

 

Sinead: no that’s not on dollar tree.

 

Rita: we basically had to shape it and nail it 

 

Mirthell: right 

 

Rita: we put it together ourselves it wasn’t like and it wasn’t easy like IKEA either it was a lot

 

Shalom: I’m gonna be honest I don’t remember dollar tree Christmas I remember nook Christmas and I remember Hannah Montana house Christmas

 

Sinead: oh that’s those are good guys we must have been balling at that point or something

 

Mirthell: yeah dollar tree Christmases was those are those

 

Sinead: I remember dollar tree Christmas okay

 

Shiloh: Was I even born?

 

Rita: yes you were a baby.

 

Mirthell: yeah you were born but you would not have remembered 

 

Sinead: you know why I know dollar tree Christmas because those would be the dolls where you can’t even put shoes on them they had beach feet okay they had wide beach feet

 

Rita: like fat

 

Sinead: yes you could put no shoes on them

 

Rita: oh that’s so funny

 

Shalom: I don’t know why I remember every Christmas I remember going to grandma and grandpa’s house I remember that Christmas I remember pancake Christmas where we got I think IHOP or some sort of like cake or something like that that was the first time we didn’t like

 

Sinead: I think that you probably pushed out of your mind dollar tree Christmas 

 

Mirthell: yeah yeah yeah but probably years 

 

Rita: but that’s the thing like right now that was poverty back then but right now like I’m sure there’s a lot of people here listening or watching where they shop at dollar tree and that and that’s fine it’s just you know yeah that was it was I’m grateful for stores like dollar tree and dollars oh yeah our general and family doll I am grateful because you can go in there like you said to get good deals to find anything you need and be affordable and I think that we really went there for many many many years

 

Shalom: I remember shopping at dollar tree even more so than shopping at Walmart or target like

 

Rita: we were always in dollar tree, always

 

Sinead: Dollar tree was our supermarket

 

Mirthell: I would always go to the dollar tree that was my go-to place to make sure that I’m making meals for you guys making sure that we’re all eating yeah you know I mean oh my goodness I loved dollar tree, yeah you know what really over there what really got me was when I was watching maid and she got this job and when she got the job she had to pay for all the supplies she had to pay for 

 

Sinead: yeah that got me too! I was like what?

 

Mirthell: for her uniform and everything and it’s just like why are there so many opportunities that are not opportunities like they make you feel like it’s an opportunity but it’s not 

 

Sinead: yeah where you’re giving more than you can get 

 

Mirthell: right by the time you make it back up you could be fired you could be laid off 

 

Sinead: right

 

Shalom: look it was a cut this is kind of a spoiler but it was cutthroat when the permanent boss fired her because she took the other job I mean like I felt really sad for her

 

Rita: yeah but then I also think about it from the boss’s perspective because she’s probably barely making ends meet and so she can’t have workers that could be undercutting her so in this kind of position you do feel for both for example right now I don’t even know if it’s expired or not yet but we’ve had um rent or is it a mortgage moratorium that’s right or eviction moratorium i

should say um we’ve had just we’ve had things on both ends where it was 

 

Mirthell: policies that are trying to help

 

Rita: help right help everybody make sure that they stay housed but on the back end the people who own the homes are left going like and it’s not even corporations I’m talking about people who decided to invest in real estate

 

Sinead: right 

 

Rita: and become you know entrepreneurs and now they can’t afford the mortgage to the bank

 

Sinead: the bank is not giving letting up the bank is still knocking on their doors 

 

Rita: exactly so I see I see both ends because we were 

 

Mirthell: that’s a good segue to this to this topic about the situation that we the country is in right now right it’s in a very precarious situation

 

Rita: right so so we had a handyman that came today to fix a couple of things and he told what did he tell you today 

 

Mirthell: right so like in the industry right now you know people are not making phone calls to get things fixed.

 

Rita: right

 

Sinead: really?

 

Mirthell: so a lot of people are not and part of that is because you know some people just don’t want to get things fixed because they’re scared of having someone in their home so they’re utilizing the services less but not only that but a lot of their workers either are not showing up or they are getting fired for not showing up or now a turnaround of being laid off so this is happening in every single industry 

 

Shalom: so in his field that he’s in right now there are people not showing up for work?

 

Mirthell: there are some times that people are just not showing up for work and part of that is that there are policies that are in place that is giving people a check and this is happening not just

 

Rita: in stimulus check right?

 

Mirthell: it’s a stimulus check and so this is happening we had to hire some people in the medical field, aides to take care of some family members that we have and we found the same thing with them they were complaining that people are not showing up we noticed that a lot of people were not showing up 

 

Rita: right we would have liked a different nurse almost every week and it was like what’s going

on and the people the supervisors and bosses were like we are not being able to keep staff right 

 

Shalom: same with our shame with our young people we know that we have people to take our garbage and our in our boxes and stuff and they’re not even him wasn’t he just telling you how

 

Mirthell: yeah he this is the owner is

picking up some of the traffic 

 

Rita: so he said that his son moved back to work it um actually he graduated from college right and he worked and he came back to now work the garbage business with his dad this is the junk business, not the garbage like on the curb, this is like if you have like a ton of extra boxes and things like that and so he comes they come we call them pretty regularly to come and get like a bunch of our packages and things like that.

 

Mirthell: extra garbage that cannot fit 

 

Rita: and they used to be they were supervising like I remember sometimes they would come there’d be like five guys six guys seven guys 

 

Mirthell: even up to eight 

 

Rita: yeah and now it’s just several trucks it’s just the owner and his son

 

Mirthell: that’s it right

 

Rita: and then our handyman today said that he was the and this is what I was waiting for you to say yeah he was the only handyman that was working for the company for quite a few months now because so many people are either not showing up so things are 

 

Shasha: and also and also we um not to sound bougie but we were trying to hire a personal driver for us to drive us to uh to California because for our filming stuff but when we called they’re saying there’s a shortage of drivers too so 

 

Mirthell: every single industry went to go get some donuts one day and at the drive-through Christmas they all remembered yeah we went through the drive-through and all the people were there were new and they had to apologize and say these are all new staff because you know we didn’t have we had a shortage of staff nobody knew how to make the donuts nobody knew how to do anything 

 

Shalom: you guys, what is going on in this country?

 

Rita: you went to burger king yesterday was it yesterday or the day before and first of all there are new hours that are posted and they were like stay here at the first window and we’ll tell you when you can move up to the next one we were waiting there for a good while 

 

Mirthell: and we’re wondering like what’s going on

 

Rita: what’s going on I remember we had been there like a few times over the last several months and it’s they were always talking about their shortage and I don’t think it’s gotten any better 

 

Shalom: guys what is going on in this country why is there a shortage of everything 

 

Mirthell: right yeah we’re doing some renovation on our home shortage of materials so our home is not renovated we went to check out uh some property to look at some property in the state that we live in and the people that we’re gonna like to sell the property 

 

Rita: oh yeah yeah yeah 

 

Mirthell: they have a company where they would buy and sell luxury cars and they used to do very well 

 

Rita: parts right or the whole car?

 

Mirthell: well the whole thing 

 

Rita: yeah the whole car right 

 

Mirthell: and they were saying that the inventory is down more than a hundred percent 

 

Rita: where he was saying but he would do about three a hundred cars per month and now they were just dropped down to twenty-something

 

Mirthell: twenty-something cars that are just available like the cars are not even available to

buy and people are not buying the cars so it’s like literally every single industry is just crumbling 

 

Shiloh: do you think it’s because people becoming more uh entrepreneurs these days are 

 

Rita: no no this goes far beyond that because for many years we’ve had more and more and more entrepreneurs every year this is a combination of Covid people getting sick

 

Mirthell: some of it is due to just government policies where individuals are receiving incentives or they’re receiving paychecks because they’re unable to get their paychecks and then it turns around and now people don’t have the incentive to go to work

 

Rita: well because a lot of people were making minimum wage and it’s really not minimum wage in this country really does not meet the needs of what people need to really survive on so yeah when they get the stimulus checks or the unemployment checks things like that and it’s larger than they were making 

 

Mirthell: why would they go to work

 

Rita: exactly because they’re struggling

 

Mirthell: they’re now gonna start traveling they’re now gonna turn around and probably try to start their own business that they’ve been longing to so a lot of the individuals when they get these stimulus checks it’s not that they’re lazy I think some people want to paint it out that

everybody’s lazy but they’re not even making as much as some of these stimulus checks that are coming in and so they take this money and they think okay this is my opportunity to now start my own business or start to like you know make t-shirts or do something that I can work

for myself because let’s be truthful they’re not treated well in these in these workplaces you’re working at some of these restaurants or you’re working at some of these places and you’re treated like garbage and so you’re like okay this is my opportunity to change my life 

 

Rita: especially now that society seems to have gotten a lot more aggressive so now you’re really being treated poorly

 

Sinead: right right 

 

Rita: by the sometimes by your boss sometimes by the customers but

 

Mirthell: you’re a bus driver and you know that it’s more than likely that you’re gonna get covered because you’re driving a bus you’re gonna say I’m gonna take this stimulus check and protect myself right yeah because I don’t want to be constantly exposed 

 

Rita: exactly but like you had mentioned earlier how in maid now the how the woman the characters remember how she had to buy her own products and things like that and so every month she has to now figure out you know whatever how much he should take that out of her check like the cost of supplies and it’s not even like she’s working for herself she’s limited for her hours as well in the movie they talked about she could only work 30 hours no more but also there’s in the book nickel and dime that I had mentioned earlier they had a section on people who do cleaning and what they didn’t touch on in the series which they could have is the constant exposure to the chemicals 

 

Sinead: that is true 

 

Rita: actually causes health problems which then causes more er visits more doctors visits more prescription medication which then now takes is money out of their pocket so it’s well vicious fishes cycle well I did 

 

Shalom: well remember the part where she threw up after cleaning that one bathroom inside that yeah but that was like she saw a dead rat we’re talking about like the chemical 

 

Sinead: yeah exposure to bleach constantly smelling it you know you know that kind of stuff

 

Rita: respiratory issues and things like that 

 

Sinead: not just the cleaning supplies but going into places like that that have mold or dust and everything

 

Mirthell: so when you see people saying I’m not going to go back into work, this is no small decision that they’re making some of them are making life and death decisions or sick or well decisions and they’re saying I worked there because I felt I had to but now that I don’t have to I’m gonna try and find a better way for my family

 

Rita: so I hate to say it but I think everything’s gonna get worse before it gets better yeah and what do we do already see the shortages in grocery stores 

 

Mirthell: we haven’t even talked about that yet like the grocery stores are there is a shortage in grocery stores there’s a lack of products that you’re having I know like I’m not even talking about toilet paper like how everyone was running on toilet paper there is a shortage of food there is a shortage of supplies 

 

Shalom: do you think it’s worse than when it was in 2020 at the height of covid 

 

Mirthell: absolutely because now we’re having a short on gas we’re having a short on car parts like literally everything is like blocked up at the ports and some of them they’re not even being produced

 

Rita: Because it’s a global supply chain crisis so there if something is short in Taiwan it’ll affect us like for their time off for the microchips for the cars it just goes all over 

 

Mirthell: so so where is this going to be are we going to have food insecurities well

 

Rita: I definitely think we will you know there are companies right now for people who don’t know where you can buy like MRE’s but you know how it used to be just for people in the army it’s um like dehydrated meals that you add water to and then boom there’s your meal and basically there are people or if it’s a cold thing milk or something but basically meal their meal replacements and you can buy it by the buckets and they stay good for like 30 40 years you know or 20 years and so I remember we bought some um because we didn’t know where this pandemic was going I bought some a long time ago and so we have some so there are some companies right now though they are booming those people who are selling that they are making so much money right now because people are afraid that not only will they be shortages but that they won’t be able to afford food that’s another thing because of inflation and that’s another thing we haven’t talked about things are smaller but they’re more expensive

 

Mirthell: right right right right 

 

Rita: you know and that’s happening a lot 

 

Mirthell: everything milk oil everything and then of course gas a lot of people are really trying to get electric cars because they’re really sick you can charge yourself how much gas is going to be ridiculous and when the price is there’s a place in California I don’t know what town but there was a particular town in California 

 

Rita: right it’s in Monterey county and it’s like right now it’s like eight dollars a gallon

 

Mirthell: that’s that is incredible wow right so if things get so bad you know um people are probably not going to be able to travel they’re not going to be able to use their cars oh that’s just going to be a luxury car well I would say 

 

Rita: we had a funeral recently in our family and even prices for airline tickets are super high they’re sky-high right now and so there were a lot of people who couldn’t make it and so it affects everything so again we have to wonder and before I even get to that how does that make you guys feel you know because like right now like we’re talking like family to families right yeah and you know daddy and I have done a lot of talking you know as adults 

 

Sinead: the thing is those from in my generation and younger like maybe those of you who are watching who are younger or like around the same age as me I know that you guys are probably scared and worried because it’s something that none of us have ever experienced before I think we’ve been through a lot of I’m thinking like in the past 10 years things have never been this bad like people always be joking online like oh you know things are so bad right now but you know what it’s okay there’ll be people who make a lot, of jokes and dark jokes or whatever and now I feel like that we’re in actual serious time and I don’t know how like mentally everybody’s gonna handle it you know what I mean 

 

Shalom: uh yeah I definitely agree with that but I also um think that a lot of people are going through this even prior to the pandemic so I just feel like that it’s just true you know it’s just different people different stages you know maybe some people are just new at experiencing this more than those are being like oh yeah I’m just used to this like you know maybe you know

 

Sinead: because people have been going through this 

 

Mirthell: yeah that’s a good point who do you think is going to fare better I mean because individuals that have been going through struggles I remember when we were going through struggles we just learned about a thousand ways to make potatoes or you know we found those shops where you can get spaghetti for a dollar and making dollar meals that literally can feed the entire family for less than five dollars and so we just learned how I remember when we were going through the worst of our times we learned that maybe it’s not the best idea is to go and get some fast food for five dollars but maybe feed the family for five dollars right it’s just you know these are the kind of decisions that we just had to make

 

Rita: right so basically if you’re already in the mindset of hustling or making you know a dollar stretch you’ll be left better off right now what do you think Shasha

 

Shasha: man, just oh man this is just a lot and you must be feeling really overwhelmed

 

Sinead: do you feel overwhelmed I mean 

 

Shasha: sort of like you hear all the stuff in the industry, it’s more like what can you do you know what I’m saying

 

Rita: right how about you Shiloh

 

Shiloh: I’m not really overwhelmed at all because I mean I feel like I’m too young to really worry about that stuff I mean sure I enter high school and everything but like I’m talking like 12 to like 16 maybe you shouldn’t really worry about this stuff that much about the you know the industry and everything because 

 

Shalom: well here’s the thing a lot of people your age are you know trying to help the family out now trying to help support exactly like take care of their younger siblings you know work and stuff 

 

Sinead: yeah the thing is that you’re in a very different spot than 99 of people in the country you know 

 

Shiloh: 98 point

 

Sinead: 90 whatever over 90 of people your age you’re in a very different spot so I understand that you’re not really feeling overwhelmed but there’s a lot of people out there who feel like that they have to do their part to support their family and stuff

 

Mirthell: I’m seeing a lot of job openings I remember like one of the first jobs that I had to help out my family when we were going because I didn’t grow up privileged I grew up you know having to work and I remember one of my first jobs was working at a burger joint and just making enough money not necessarily to help my parents provide but my needs I was able to make a little additional money so that I can meet my needs and prepare for you know things that I had to get done so I just think that at this point in time I’m hearing a lot of people being pretty judgmental they’re saying oh this generation is lazy or this generation doesn’t know how to work or this generation you know is entitled I don’t think that that’s fair I think I think generations just keep on doing that they just always 

 

Rita: well I think those the people who say that in my opinion are people who don’t understand the work that this generation is doing now 

 

Shasha: right

 

Rita: because being on social media or starting an online business is no walk in the park it’s hard yeah and it takes a lot of work and so if people aren’t going and get let’s say getting a fast-food job or doing the other stuff that people are used to seeing they automatically think oh what are you doing just making a video or taking a picture and it’s like it’s a whole lot more behind it 

 

Sinead: yeah they do not know the behind the scenes 

 

Shalom: right yeah it takes work

 

Mirthell: I mean you guys are hard workers like I don’t I wouldn’t say that you guys are I think that you have the privilege but your privilege was not given to you guys actually worked really hard and consistent for it and there are so many kids in this generation I believe that are doing their part they’re working hard they’re doing their part they’re figuring out how they’re gonna make moves next and you know I actually don’t feel that pessimistic about this

generation I actually feel optimistic about this generation

 

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Rita: well you know again what can we do to prepare for it possibly getting worse before it gets better

 

Mirthell: well I agree with what the kids said first, you got to get your mentality right you got to be prepared mentally to know that things are going to change right now and it’s not going to be forever but it is going to be for a time and so you got to get your mind right to say okay I am going to make sure that I understand it’s not going to be the same so step number one mentality

 

Sinead: yeah Mentality right

 

Mirthell: what would you say step number two is though?

 

Shalom: step number two

 

Sinead: make a plan

 

Rita: okay make a plan so what would that plan look like?

 

Sinead: what would the plan looks like 

 

Shasha: stock up 

 

Rita: wait now when you say that people say oh don’t tell people to make a run and go and then now we’re gonna have toilet paper shortages

 

Shasha: well how are you gonna get stuff and you don’t stock up?

 

Mirthell: that’s a good point it’s true right I do think that each individual and each family needs to make an individual plan and part of that plan is going to be how are we going to make sure that we have some additional resources right and it’s not just-food

 

Sinead: buying out food and stuff at the market but it’s like

 

Shalom: it’s like rationing and stuff

 

Sinead: it’s planning out rationing but it’s also buying like the is it called MRE’s or 

 

Rita: yeah

 

Sinead: also buying things like that like that’s not necessarily going to sell out, right?

 

Rita: right 

 

Mirthell: right absolutely and I just think that um just making sure that you probably um are like for instance one of the things that we got is we got these planters where you can actually plant vegetables and fruit and different things like that and so that was one of our plans that we were going to have started to ensure that we are eating fresh food still because if we get can have a lot of sodium and you don’t want to always be depending on canned foods um you want to make sure that you’re getting fresh food and things like that so yeah

 

Rita: right I would say another thing too is like Shasha said I was just teasing her with the stock up she’s absolutely right you do need to stock up you do need to be prepared and if you do it more gradually then there won’t be like a shortage like if you wait to the last minute and then buy like 10 packs of toilet paper that’s a problem but you know 

 

Shalom: I also think you should do your study like you should study what other people have done in the past to see how they, you know how they stock up how they, you know we how to buy certain things because you know like you know how to like yes and you know just study the ways of how people are doing it even in 2008 because I feel like that we always forget about that year or not forget but like it’s always something that it’s just like exactly right

 

Rita: and that’s a good point though that you made earlier about people who already were feeling this way but prior to the pandemic because in 2008 even though there was a recession I didn’t feel any different for me really

 

Sinead: right 

 

Rita: but it was I was already struggling 

 

Shasha: wait how come it didn’t affect you?

 

Mirthell: we were already struggling for 2008

 

Sinead: we’re already struggling, it’s not gonna get much worse like they’re already used to it, they know what to do they have their plan they have their system 

 

Rita: yeah 

 

Shalom: but I definitely do think that this year is probably worse than 2008 I just feel like that’s just slightly different

 

Rita: I would say also just probably another step I think would start trying to get used to like a simpler life 

 

Shalom: oh yes 

 

Rita: like we are so used to eating what we want when we want especially here in the u.s 

 

Shalom: and shopping all you want

 

Rita: when shopping and all that stuff and I think we need to get used to a simpler life meaning you might have rice and beans every night for a while or you might have more spaghetti or you might have to wear the same clothes it’s fine

 

Shalom: I have to admit I actually was struggling with that not ordering amazon packages and not you know doing whatever you want in terms of like you know going out and writing and just like I feel like for someone who’s privileged as me I feel like that was my struggle

 

Mirthell: I think another great idea and we have done this before and we’ve alluded to it is helping others

 

Shalom: right 

 

Mirthell: you have some share it with somebody else just likes how we were saying like when we got our card we made sure that our neighbors were eating too sharing with others is what’s going to get us all through this so yeah sharing with others becomes really important and I’m a big believer in communities coming together because you know somebody may have one thing with which was food another person may be a mechanic and they can you know help someone  have to like bring back the barter system to sort of you know help one another in our communities

 

Rita: right and I think what you were saying about helping others with your knowledge like for example if you are someone that knows how to garden helping your neighbor

 

Mirthell: right 

 

Rita: if you are someone who knows how to fix cars helping you know someone else because I think there’s a lot of knowledge that could help you save money if we kind of pulled our knowledge together not just our resources right and so that we don’t have to be dependent on spending money every time now that being said there are people who are going to need work so there are people like for example our handyman that we use he has been a friend of the family now for years and so I’m not saying like I’m going to go like take his job or anything like that but you know he has a lot of knowledge so he might be able to if he wanted to like help us pass on the information and help others so it’s a really it’s a balancing act you know you want people to still be able to work but then also there are just times where you just don’t have the money and you need something done you know fixed or food or something like that 

 

Mirthell: and at the end of the day I think that it’s important to have your faith it’s important to believe that better is yet to come you know this is not a doomsday situation where we’ll never come back we’ll never be able to spring back from this we truly believe that things are going to get better soon one day it’s going to get better and what you want to do is you want to be the right type of person make sure that you have the right type of heart where you’re helping others loving others being kind being considerate because you know we’re going to get through this but we’re going to get through this being good people 

 

Sinead: yeah

 

Shalom: amen

 

Rita: right

 

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Mirthell: so I’d like to share a story uh with our audience um sort of like a closing thought 

 

Rita: okay

 

Mirthell: and um it’s all about your attitude it’s about your attitude because we have to have the right attitude as we’re going into these times so when I and Rita first met and after we had decided that we were gonna get married and we were preparing for our the wedding we went to our a person that would make us a cake it was actually in the south where we got married and this particular lady um invited us over to the home and she had like a whole bunch of cakes like sample cakes spread out for us and we tasted each one of these sample cakes and we were like okay we want this one and I think we decided to go with a rum cake right?

 

Rita: yes

 

Mirthell: but it wasn’t the rum cake that I am accustomed to 

 

Rita: yeah it was better

 

Mirthell: ah that’s what she thinks

 

Rita: it was good it was good 

 

Mirthell: there’s a Jamaican rum cake that is called black cake where it’s thick saturated it’s like

 

Rita: no, it’s not good 

 

Mirthell: it’s delicious

 

Rita: it’s not good at all 

 

Mirthell: and then it has this is like white icing with like these little

 

Rita: it tastes like a fruit cake with alcohol in it

 

Shalom: ew

 

Mirthell: it’s just divine so I thought when she said rum cake I thought I was gonna get that cake

 

Rita: no we got the good rum cake the one that’s

 

Mirthell: the fluffy white cake

 

Rita: I don’t even know how to describe it it’s like a regular cake okay with the rum flavor and it’s so good it was so moist and it was so good

 

Mirthell: anyhow

 

Shiloh: Was it really rum?

 

Rita: it was rum flavored 

 

Mirthell: rum-flavored it 

 

Shiloh: Was it actually rum?

 

Mirthell: it’s rum-flavored it’s not it doesn’t have the alcohol content 

 

Shiloh: Was it actual rum when you guys were together before I was born?

 

Mirthell: yes it was rum that had a flavor

 

Rita: What does that even mean?

 

Sinead: He wants to know, was it a rum?

 

Mirthell: Were we drinking? No, we’re not drinkers 

 

Sinead: Did you get drunk off your wedding cake?

 

Mirthell: we didn’t get drunk off of it bakes out 

 

Shasha: you can’t get drunk it’s a rum cake 

 

Rita: you know what it was like it’s like the rum cake we get on we used to get when we cruised because

 

Shiloh: that’s what I was saying because I didn’t want you guys to think that I was talking about the rum cake we had like did you actually have 

 

Rita: no no we had that same sort of rum cake what’s the rum cake we usually get on the cruise

 

Mirthell: it’s like

 

Sinead: Tortuga

 

Rita: yes oh my god it’s so good

 

Mirthell: Guys it’s like that kind of rum cake.

 

Shalom: y’all if I was there I would just reject both your cakes I do not like rum 

 

Mirthell: oh well yeah you wouldn’t, you would reject that

 

Rita: You like the rum cake we get from on cruises don’t you?

 

Mirthell: you don’t like that rum cake? How about the Jamaican black rum cake?

 

Shalom: no I don’t

 

Mirthell: yes?

 

Rita: nobody likes that

 

Mirthell: oh common

 

Shalom: never like that every time the church would 

 

Rita: and I know I probably offended every single Jamaican out there I’m just kidding

 

Shalom: she’s Jamaican

 

Rita: right my grandmother my grandmother’s father is Jamaican so

 

Shalom: guess what she only found this out this year so, she grew up peeking Jamaican

 

Shiloh: That’s like calling dad Irish.

 

Rita: he is his grandfather’s Irish 

 

Mirthell: but i really want to tell myself so anyhow when we were eating the cake she was giving us a story and she was telling us the story about how she gathered all of these things together all of these ingredients together to make the cake the day before and she’s talking about how she was so stressed out because she knew that she had to have all the materials to bake for us and all sorts of stuff so she was really stressed out and so she was telling the story of why she’s so tired now so what happened was the day before she was at the grocery store she drove there she went in got all the materials bought them and came out and found out that her car was stolen right so so she’s sitting there panicking and she’s looking in the parking lot and she’s just looking everywhere looking everywhere it’s like where is my car oh my goodness i don’t know where my car is oh i already i am behind on making all these cakes i got people coming i can’t believe this and then she calls the cops and she’s like listen someone stole my

The car they took a report and when they took the report she said oh you know it was a honda civic and they were just like a van

 

Rita: it was a van

 

Mirthell: no it was a car, it was a car that was

 

Rita: oh yeah that’s right yeah 

 

Mirthell: yeah it’s like a honda civic or something like that yeah yeah and so she was just like this honda civic and they were like oh yeah that that car goes missing a lot like there’s a lot of people that are breaking those cars so I understand why people want honda’s it was back in it was back in the 90s and hondas were like really good 

 

Rita: that was it 

 

Mirthell: like our first cars

 

Shalom: yeah all we would have was hondas 

 

Rita: right we love honda 

 

Mirthell: so so they took the report and she was sitting on the curb and then the cops after they took her report and everything the cops are like would you like us to drop you home and she said no it’s okay I’ll just have my daughter come and pick me up so she calls her daughter and she’s just like um you know honey could you come and pick me up you know because you know someone stole our car and she’s like the mom you didn’t drive the car you drove the van and right beside her where she was sitting was her van she literally was beside her van the entire time writing a report about a car that was stolen that was not stolen it was sitting at home

 

Shalom: I remember you telling this story 

 

Mirthell: and I was just like it just goes to show you that your mentality your mind can play tricks on you if you wake up and you’re like this is the worst thing or I’m going through the worst time you know you’re already setting yourself up for failure you can be having a tough time but it’s your perspective your mind how you choose to look at it can begin to shape your day so because she thought she had a bad day her day went from bad to worse but if she had the right mentality about the challenges that she had to face she might have had the clarity of thought to remember oh you know what I got my van she wouldn’t have had to go through all that stuff with a police officer so I just want to share that with you guys because we just want to encourage you to have the right mentality no matter what you’re facing you know um have that optimistic faithful perspective that you know what things are not the best or things may not be the best but it’s going to work out.

 

Rita: right 

 

Mirthell: it’s going to work out for us and we’re going to make a plan we are going to have a great attitude about this right we are going to survive this thing 

 

Rita: together and we’re going to do it together and we’re going to do it as a community and we’re going to help others and when you come with the right mentality and the right attitude your day won’t go from bad to worse your day will go from pretty challenging time to brighter days 

 

Shalom: because remember your car is always right next to you on the curb

 

Mirthell: exactly so um that’s that’s my story thanks everyone for joining us we really enjoyed our time we hope you did too here on the onyx family we love to tell the story feed the soul make you laugh heal the heart join us once again on Spotify

 

Rita: apple podcast um youtube anywhere where you listen to podcasts or you can watch us here on our channel all right guys

 

Everyone: bye

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Shasha: hey guys we’re the onyx kids I’m Shasha

 

Shiloh: Shiloh

 

Sinead: Sinead

 

Shalom: and Shalom 

 

Shasha: and guys I just want to say that we’re doing something a little bit different from our skits you know you’re used to us running around chasing after monsters and stuff like that but in this podcast, we’re gonna go behind the monsters and see how the monsters appeared in our videos.

 

Sinead: not just monsters but we’re going behind the scenes in all of our videos we’re gonna talk about the process of how we came up with the idea the filming process of what happens behind the camera or things that we’ve cut out things that we wanted to put in or ideas that didn’t even work out. 

 

Shasha: mm-hmm you’re going to see the raw footage 

 

Sinead: well not the raw footage but the rock, yeah we don’t have most of the footage anymore but you know like we’re going to talk about

 

Shiloh: vlogs we used to have the raw footage so

 

Shasha: I know it’s all deleted so that’s a bummer 

 

Shalom: oh yeah 

 

Shasha: but you guys are gonna be surprised at what we’re gonna say so today we’re gonna start with our most popular video ketchup versus honey mustard

 

Shalom: The iconic hundred million viewed video 

 

Shasha: not to brag not to brag

 

Shalom: but it was like the least expected like I thought like there are hundreds of videos I would prefer to hit a hundred million but that one I was like really

 

Shasha: first of all number one because it was rushed okay I’m not gonna cap it was rushed

 

Shiloh: we needed ketchup stinks I know immediately oh this is gonna flop

 

Sinead: she’s shaded Shilo just shaded Shasha’s improv

 

Shasha: yeah that was improv by the way yeah 

 

Shalom: so if you guys don’t know about the video we recorded this was about two to three years ago 

 

Shasha: three years ago 2018

 

Shalom: wow 2018. yeah we recorded it and it was a last-minute skit like Shasha said it’s like a half skit half music video and it was about ketchup versus mustard which is the better condiment 

 

Sinead: yes basically shadow and Shasha they were eating like eating a hot dog always eating a burger and they were like okay which is the best condiment ketchup and then they’re like obviously mustard which side are you guys on by the way which are what about you guys are you guys ketchup or mustard

 

Shasha: Ketchup duh

 

Shiloh: I’m ketchup, to be honest 

 

Shasha: mustard tastes gross like sour yeah

 

Shalom: oh 

 

Sinead: sour?

 

Shiloh: Shasha had to be mustard for the purpose of the video 

 

Shasha: I know 

 

Shiloh: but she hates mustard I love mustard but 

 

Shasha: what?

 

Shalom: but mustard is so bitter I prefer honey mustard 

 

Sinead: honey mustard is good if it was a choice between ketchup and honey mustard I’d choose honey mustard 

 

Shalom: same

 

Shiloh: and like mustard is really good on hotdogs like you don’t understand like it’s good 

 

Sinead: it’s high you know 

 

Shasha: anyways back to the video I just want to say am I wrong or was it we weren’t planning to make a music video right no we were not planning to have a song at all I think I was just supposed to be a skit and then we were like hey let’s add this to it, Shalom, you came up with the idea I think.

 

Shalom: I did?

 

Sinead: you did and then what happened is you came up with the idea and you started writing some of it and I was like um you know let me try writing some of it you know because I’m a little bit into music I never wrote anything that much before though 

 

Shalom: right right

 

Sinead: but I was like hey shalom you’re doing the skit part let me just write the music part for you, okay and so I took over from writing it I wrote a quick little thing. 

 

Shasha: Wait, why was Shalom writing it? Who was the scriptwriter 

 

Sinead: because like she was gonna add it to the skit part so she’ll just make it quick but really what I got onto was like flowing with it you know so then it was like 

 

Shalom: would you say that it’s like differs from the other music that you wrote for our other skits 

 

Shasha: yeah because we had other music in our skits 

 

Sinead: that’s true but the thing is before we all worked together on the lyrics when we had other videos that had music because the thing is that’s not our first skit with music we’ve had other skits of music you know like our Godzilla one with the whole little music broadway thing 

 

Shiloh: the first one actually, we did was the granny one 

 

Shasha: yeah yeah

 

Shiloh: I remember when they tried to eat us

 

Shalom: I can’t wait to talk about that one

 

Shiloh: I love that video because it was our first creative thing and we didn’t even tell our parents about it at first because we wanted to surprise them 

 

Shasha: yeah yeah I remember I remember and we were it was in the middle of the skit where we decided to do that I mean I don’t we can’t go into it now but I’m just saying that was the middle of the skit our best skits with the music and I mean our best skits, in general, were like last-minute ones 

 

Sinead: sometimes when you improv like that like we’re just like okay guys I’m just on the spot let’s do this idea let’s go something no script or more of an outline written for this one you wrote an outline some script element then a lot of it was improvised

 

Shalom: yeah yeah that’s usually how our skits work though 

 

Shiloh: yeah yeah but like some skits were like you know guys this is like really hard on this and it doesn’t even get as popular as our other videos

 

Shalom: yeah that gets me mad so yes

 

Shiloh: exactly so the popular videos are so rushed with like this is not gonna get a lot post

 

Sinead: And it gets a lot. Wake up and it has 20 million in an overnight.

 

Shalom: let’s talk about the costume who bought the ketchup versus mustard costume 

 

Sinead: dude I think Shasha did she usually what Shasha does is she likes to buy a bunch of props and stuff ahead of time be like okay maybe we can do a video about this so you have bought a ketchup costume and a mustard costume we weren’t sure what we were going to do.

 

Shasha: so I just bought it 

 

Sinead: yeah yeah you did oh we bought just a bunch of costumes randomly just to see what we’ll do with it, yeah you’re like okay we’ll do ketchup versus mustard 

 

Shasha: I bought a fork and spoon for the costume we never used it 

 

Sinead: we never used that 

 

Shalom: we never used it 

 

Shiloh: yeah but like sorry I mean I’m just us doing it now like I’m taller than all of you I know that would be so weird now I have a very deep voice

 

Shalom: yes you do Shiloh yes you do

 

Shasha: I just want to say though the beginning of the skit I like the beginning of the skit the most because it introduces so many of our characters like robots and teachers I’m glad that his skit

 

Sinead: it includes almost all of our most popular characters miss suffering in there we have tom and jerry in there we had tom was there right 

 

Shasha: yeah tom and jerry jerry 

 

Sinead: we had Charles 

 

Shasha: we had Charles

 

Shiloh: yeah yeah cuz think about it since lots of people who are newcomers to our channel watched it they got familiar with the characters 

 

Sinead: yeah that’s true 

 

Shiloh: and then one of them more so you know what it was really smart whoever thought of that

 

Shalom: oh yeah but you know talking about the music video you know most music videos don’t even hit 100 million views and so for this to be our music video to hit 100 million views more than other mainstream artists are pretty significant

 

Sinead: I like you that you’re calling it a music video because you know what even though there’s a skit in the beginning I like to consider it a music video because I think about like drake’s kiki do you love me right and there’s almost right in it and it’s still a music video

 

Shalom: so true that’s what I like about jake’s music there’s always some sort of funny quirky element to it, yeah but you know that’s what most music videos are they start off with the story right and it leads up into the song like you guys name some 

 

Shasha: yeah watch a lot of music videos

 

Shalom: but like no like thank you next like you know there’s like a story to it

 

Shiloh: um but like that specific version of the song the first one we never really uploaded on like an album or anything we did a second version

 

Shasha: yeah remix

 

Sinead: right we did do a remix of ketchup versus mustard after the popularity of that one blew up 

 

Shiloh: because you know why because we wanted to post the first one it was like it’s free copyright music 

 

Shasha: oh yeah it wasn’t our actual 

 

Shalom: we didn’t we do it like a year later when we were in California

 

Shasha: no that was a remix, yeah that was we didn’t we posted the original it wasn’t our beat 

 

Shiloh: but the remix was better though

 

Shasha: it was better it

was not banging

the music video two was good too

 

Shiloh: I think

you’re better than that we put our foot

in it 

 

Shasha: yeah yeah yeah but we put the whole kitchen I was thinking I was listening to it I was like man I wish we put this version in the hundred million videos because I did not carry That rap I am not a good rapper guys

 

Sinead: Like when I listen back, it was a nice jingle

 

Shasha: Shiloh carried it, you have to admit. Shiloh carried it, I did not.

 

Shiloh: yeah, but every time I watch it I’m like uhh my voice!

 

Shalom: oh because you were a baby.

 

Shiloh: ten wait no 

 

Shasha: he was eleven

 

Shiloh:  I was eleven eleven 

 

Shalom: you were a baby to me

 

Shasha: yeah anyways yeah, first of all, I just do it for you guys but I am not a good rapper-singer at all if you guys ever heard of the song we sing in the Godzilla one you guys know I’m not it wasn’t like this like I just want to find love but the guy in my dove I need help it only sounds good when you sing with me.

 

Shalom: no she’s a great singer she always downs play it like every time she’s

 

Shasha: stop

 

Shalom: yes you are is that you sing so softly like one time I heard you singing I was like oh my goodness 

 

Shasha: you guys sing better as greedy grannies

 

Shalom: wait, what?

 

Shiloh: I think me and Sinead are the best singers.

 

Sinead: I am really surprised that you’re saying that you’re a good singer not that I think you’re bad consider yourself 

 

Shiloh: no mom said I can harmonize well 

 

Shasha: okay let’s hear it

 

Shiloh: if they wanted to 

 

Sinead: wait, no no no no I gotta save my vocals guys let’s not bring it out right now you know what I mean

 

Shiloh: Yeah if you ever hear me just sing badly in a voice crack voice you know I can control her right 

 

Sinead: like he’s doing a purpose if he’s practicing his voice you know the thing about having a 100 million video is that I feel like that it’s a sense of accomplishment I feel

like there’s not a lot of people in our I don’t know 

 

Shasha: in the kid’s space?

 

Sinead: in the kid’s space or there is but I feel like for us it’s a big accomplishment because it shows that the audience is liking what we do it’s I don’t know it’s like you don’t get trophies on youtube it’s like

 

Shasha: I wish you did 

 

Sinead: 100 000 and stuff but you know what I mean I wish you think about like these people that go on Spotify they get a billion views or 100 million views and stuff like that they get a thing from Spotify they get a thing from apple or they get a platinum thing because their thing is stream YouTubers don’t get that 

 

Shasha: I wish they had play buttons though for views

 

Shiloh: I mean 

 

Shasha: but then again people can buy bots and we didn’t buy bots by the way I just want to clarify that we didn’t buy bots for this this is all organic which surprised us even more

 

Shalom: it’s true

 

Shasha: I guess that’s why they don’t youtube doesn’t give us play buttons for Videos

 

Shalom: I mean cool I mean there are different milestones when it comes to views there’s like the hundred thousand which 

 

Shasha: well you’re not getting to work with that everyone gets that 

 

Shalom: Shasha you could say that but not a lot of people

 

Shasha: there’s like a million YouTubers a hundred thousand I’m saying

 

Shiloh: I’ve seen viral videos with like channels that have like under 500 subscribers and it had like 15 million views on like a viral-like vine video

 

Shasha: yeah I’m gonna say yeah exactly that’s why you shouldn’t get a diamond play button just for that I’m saying for like big like 100 million a billion um views

 

Shalom: it’s true I don’t even think you can get that anymore well actually I think it is possible can you? 

 

Sinead: I think you can but it takes a while and you gotta be popular 

 

Shasha: it’s only been three years since the release of ketchup vs mustard it has 100 million so I’m guessing 

 

Sinead: what is the exact account right now 

 

Shasha: yeah cause it’s over a hundred million 

 

Sinead: it’s over a hundred million

 

Shasha: I will see if it is halfway to two hundred million or is that two prizes

 

Shalom: what’s funny about it is that we made onyx kids that channel like a couple of months prior to that video 

 

Shasha: really yeah because it did in march right and we released it like this January yeah

 

Sinead: it’s like 118 million 

 

Shiloh: speaking of what slump said we only made Onyx kids were because we renamed Onyx kids to Onyx family then we made another channel is called Onyx kids so

 

Sinead: it’s a lot of confusing stuff here

 

Shiloh: yeah cause like we have two Onyx kids play buttons downstairs 

 

Shasha: yeah so that channel on excuse us to be called the onyx team and we changed it to onyx kids so for a long time that Ketchup versus Mustard of you had an onyx team on it so I think a lot of people were confused they were like Onyx Team

 

Sinead: yeah oh yeah I forgot onyx kids 

 

Shiloh: onyx team us because adventures on onyx adventures 

 

Sinead: we’ve had so many phases as onyx kids  there’s a lot of phases in our content

 

Shasha: I would say the first part was ghostbusters like yeah with the monsters and all that stuff then we had another face with this which is music a lot of music videos

 

Sinead: there’s a lot of music videos because ketchup versus mustard spanned out or it branched out into doing other rap battles because that was our first rap battle and after seeing it did so well we went into PB and j we did the cat versus dog you’re right no sweet versus salty but we don’t know because the audience loved it though because the thing is when the audience likes something you want to do more for them and the thing is we enjoyed doing it 

 

Shasha: that was my favorite phase I have to say 

 

Sinead: I like that phrase

 

Shalom: me too

 

Sinead: but eventually you kind of run out of things to go again

 

Shasha: I know

 

Shiloh: What was your favorite rap battle besides Ketchup vs mustard 

 

Shasha: oh man oh dog versus cat Sinead snapped with the words.

 

Shalom: that snaps 

 

Shiloh: I don’t even remember that one 

 

Shasha: bark bark shoot at (Raps)

 

Shiloh: you don’t understand how much I found out when I posted on TikTok everybody I knew came out and I was like what is this shout out what is this oh my goodness where did you find that 

 

Shasha: duh it’s on the internet

 

Shiloh: they don’t look no because they all saw it like what is this

 

Sinead: I’m sorry I didn’t I didn’t 

 

Shalom: okay okay but do your friends have a million views over that video 

 

Shiloh: I mean yeah but like I don’t like how I was on in the backyard on four leggings like bark bark

 

Shalom: Again, you were young. you guys a lot of people do weird stuff on the internet 

 

Sinead: they all don’t understand you already know that my friends have seen some of the videos we’ve done 

 

Shiloh: oh yeah 

 

Shalom: didn’t they watch it the other day

 

Sinead: Yes, they did and I was like no I can’t the thing is at the time when you’re filming you let go of all the embarrassments you just want to go all out into it and you want to give entertainment so like people on SNL they go all out into it 

 

Shasha: I mean the actors are dumb and dumber like imagine if they didn’t go all out like

it wouldn’t be a good movie

 

Sinead: right. I have the granny thing but looking back man this is kind of like 

 

Shiloh: this is kind of crazy

 

Sinead: it was just like I can’t like more like I can’t believe I went all out like this right 

 

Shalom: you know that’s what you have over them you got the courage to go all out knowing that they would never 

 

Sinead: for them but it’s something that I will like to take pride in for myself for my self-esteem

 

Shiloh: take pride in 

 

Sinead: yeah why not 

 

Shasha: I mean writing so you started your writing not writing songs you started that kind of career after Ketchup versus mustard giving you more confidence in your writing 

 

Sinead: well after kept versus mustard and doing all the other rap battles that were like yeah basically a year later is when we released our onyx family EP VIP and I wrote all the songs for well not all of them except one onyx, hello my dad wrote or our dad

 

Shasha: yeah what he’s our dad too

 

Sinead: I wrote all the six other songs I wrote all six of the other songs and that was stepping out of my comfort zone right all of them rap all of them because I never wrote songs that long because before even our rap battles were not that long you know what I mean

 

Shiloh: wait, who wrote the Halloween songs uh from like 2017 

 

Sinead: Daddy yeah we had Halloween songs before too, and dad wrote those songs too.

 

Shasha: I can’t wait I can’t wait to talk about our Halloween movie I remember that night 

 

Shiloh: oh yeah yeah

 

Sinead: that’s gonna be another episode

 

Shiloh: pumpkin patch yeah there’s some good times 

 

Shasha: you guys gotta we’re gonna go through every single one of our videos guys and ask the questions

 

Sinead: But yeah writing those songs I had to stretch my mind to write those songs because they were all long a whole lot longer than I would say how long was our um rap battles maybe like two minutes

 

Shasha: it was like less than a minute for Ketchup versus mustard 

 

Sinead: and also because a rap battle is different from writing a song so I had to flow the lyrics a lot differently

 

Shasha: how long did it take you to write ketchup versus mustard

 

Sinead: literally like an hour or less like it did not take me that long to write ketchup versus mustard.

 

Shalom: who edited the video

 

Shasha: oh it wasn’t me

 

Sinead: I think I did because I know that I did the lyrics I know I did the music video part so I don’t know if I edited the whole thing or if I just did the music video 

 

Shiloh: oh oh no no um in the original video I think jerry said I’m more of a relish guy yeah

Yeah so you did it 

 

Sinead: yeah I did yeah 

 

Shasha: yeah I did not edit it I don’t remember because i just remember just I don’t know what i did that day

 

Shalom: guys I just want you guys to know that we take pride in youtube so much that we take credit for every video that we edit

 

Shasha: I know yeah so if someone says that they’re like no I did I like I don’t like when someone tries to take care of a video listen up here I’m about to go off when we talk about the doodle videos okay

 

Shiloh: what you look 

 

Shasha: oh I milked it and I’m proud of that and I’m gonna tell you guys all about it and then we do that okay

 

Shiloh: honestly rap battles were so good we didn’t even do it where it was just me and Shasha but with other characters as well.

 

Shalom: Wait, did you and I ever have a rap battle?

 

Sinead: well we did a Netflix versus Hulu rap battle 

 

Shasha: yes that was so good

 

Sinead: that was fun to make 

 

Shalom: and Disney plus a plus

 

Sinead: sorry no it was Netflix versus Disney plus

 

Shalom: I thought you rap that with Shasha 

 

Shasha: yeah so so you guys did Hulu versus Netflix and then me and you did Disney plus versus Netflix you wrote a lot of songs

 

Sinead: oh man 

 

Shasha: she wrote those songs too

 

Shiloh: then the leprechaun versus the bunny

 

Shasha: yeah we did that yeah dad wrote the leprechaun versus the easter bunny we did another rap battle

 

Shiloh: yeah because there are references in there we don’t even get so

 

Shalom: how many you don’t even get? I get most references I’m older

 

Shiloh: okay what about the balloon guy

 

Shasha: the balloon yeah we also did a poop emoji versus a balloon rap battle, it was 

 

Sinead: we have a lot of rap battles on our channel

 

Shasha: we do we have a lot of music that’s our we enjoy making music

 

Sinead: making music is fun

 

Shalom: it’s really fun we should have a rap battle now 

 

Shasha: a rap battle now?

 

Shiloh: I’m not gonna freestyle I’m horrible with that 

 

Shasha: I am not I’m not gonna freestyle 

 

Shalom: all right Sinead me and you 

 

Sinead: okay go ahead you start

 

Shalom: okay

 

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Shasha: she already folded before she began 

 

Shiloh: um we have to decide what teams are we on so say something in the same category I got

 

Shalom: okay fine okay buses versus cars

 

Shasha: buses versus cars okay let’s go 

 

Shiloh: you don’t even like cars

 

Sinead: yeah you don’t even like I already know why you’re gonna choose a bus you don’t even like to drive

 

Shasha: oh

 

Shalom: that’s why I’m gonna house my points and why buses are better than cars 

 

Sinead: go-ahead

 

Shiloh: roast battle or rap battle

 

Sinead: go ahead, Shalom 

 

Shasha: begin 

 

Sinead: Why is the bus better 

 

Shalom: okay bust 

 

Shasha: stuttering

 

Shalom: hold on okay we’re rapping this right 

 

Sinead: yes

 

Shalom: okay bus bus bus 

 

Shasha: guys this is because you see this is why Sinead writes our raps, okay yeah we can’t we physically mentally emotionally spiritually cannot write a rap

 

Sinead: This is why I am the lyric writer of the Family.

 

Shasha: Thank God for Sinead.

 

Shalom: Y’all I barely even started.

 

Shasha: I changed my mind I know I said before I like the dog versus cat but I love the bacon versus egg

 

Sinead: that was a really good one that went bloating with it whenever 

 

Shalom: yes 

 

Shasha: yeah it went it went 

 

Sinead: yeah I was levitating

 

Shiloh: okay

 

Shasha: it went viral on TikTok too actually that was one of our most popular videos on TikTok the egg one yeah I like the there was like I’m bacon you flick it I grab it and I’m shaking I can go at anything to say never taste it fried and gracies I’m a different species cooking me is easy easy peasy cheesy heavy on a peppermint I mean I’m just saying it was really good like 

 

Shalom: that was good that was good

 

Shasha: yeah yeah that was fantastic I only memorized when I like the song

 

Shalom: were you guys ever insecure how about on you know anything about that video 

 

Shasha: no I thought it was really funny and good 

 

Shiloh: the havoc costumes looked 

 

Shasha: oh what do you mean

 

Sinead: I mean okay technically you guys could have just worn red and yellow 

 

Shasha: oh that wouldn’t that would have been as fun and the feather would have been as compelling come on don’t be boring

 

Shalom: Shasha is so practical it’s not even funny

 

Shiloh: bro are you good

 

Shasha: Coz Shiloh just made me laugh a lot because Shiloh said i

 

Shiloh: that was a very silent laughing

 

Shasha: okay fine but I thought the costumes were good what was wrong with it

 

Sinead: Shiloh is saying that if he would rather he wore the oh you like the hat did look a little bit it was cut

 

Shalom: it had dorky vibes

 

Sinead: dorky vibes yeah

 

Shiloh: turkey?

 

Shalom: dorky did I say dorky yes

 

Shasha: I don’t know you asked us

 

Shalom: dorky dorky

 

Shasha: no I know it was just fun and come on like SNL and other people medea everyone wears costumes 

 

Sinead: exactly I mean for me I don’t think there was anything that I felt insecure about the video about that I was just jerry and Ms. Suffering soI was sliding anything I was good.

 

Shiloh: You weren’t dressed as anything

 

Sinead: I was, as Jerry and Ms. Suffering

 

Shiloh: You were used to it.

 

Sinead: and?

 

Shiloh: Sinead

 

Shalom: oh because Shiloh’s not used to playing a different character or like having a costume.

 

Shasha: me either

 

Shiloh: I dressed up as Holish or anything come on I had that suspenders

 

Sinead: like so oh for those who don’t know Holish was the alternate ego of Shiloh nerdy Shiloh 

 

Shasha: and then Ash-Ash was alternate ego nerdy of me

 

Shalom: we’re going to talk about that in our next podcast yeah but yeah I would say that for me what got me insecure is mostly because my face was not the best in terms of like I had like the worst acne flare-up

 

Sinead: well I don’t think it was that day

 

Shalom: no it was 

 

Sinead: oh maybe I don’t remember

 

Shalom: every time I look back to that video I always look at that I’m like oh my goodness like that my face had to be working like that 

 

Sinead: yeah that’s why we love glow ups because 

 

Shasha: period

 

Sinead: that’s why we love the progression 

 

Shalom: we do 

 

Sinead: we love to see it 

 

Shiloh: yeah 

 

Shasha: first yeah I can’t imagine us I feel like if we do the music video now the kitchen first

semester I don’t know I don’t think it would be the same I feel like we just had a more carefree spirit back then be able just to go all out you know with it

 

All: yeah

 

Shiloh: plus it would be weird for me to be taller than you and just be like well I’m cool 

 

Shasha: well first of all first of all

 

Sinead: I think more though because Shiloh’s voice is higher than everything right?

 

Shasha: That’s true.

 

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Sinead: because before it was like “I’m yellow”

 

Shiloh: I’m gold and never getting old.

 

Shasha: I felt like it would have been better coz I feel like people who rap with low voices are better 

 

Sinead: really like I guess maybe I don’t know

 

Shasha: tomato-tomato whatever it’s the same 

 

Shalom: you’ll be looking flustered shining right next to the mustard 

 

Shasha: kind of say that every one 100 million people saw me like kick Charles like I’m just saying 

 

Sinead: like you kicked Charles to a hundred million people in front of a hundred million people what you gotta say for yourself?

 

Shalom: yo but it’s the 

 

Shasha: I’m proud of it

 

Sinead: oh my goodness guys, you heard it here Shasha hates Charles

 

Shalom: no but it’s the fact that people email us a lot they’re asking us oh where’d you guys get Charles I want Charles but knowing

 

Shasha: wait we’re gonna check in with Charles in another video I don’t want to spell any other behind the scenes in other videos 

 

Shalom: you’re right we gotta keep some content for the press

 

Sinead: it’s so hard to keep tight-lipped about the other videos

 

Shasha: I know we have so many videos we just want to talk about we gotta focus

on this one 

 

Shiloh: Do we still have the costumes?

 

Sinead: no we don’t have the ketchup and mustard Costume

 

Shasha: yeah we don’t we should have hung up in like a plaque or a wall of fame guys hall of fame 

 

Shalom: guys we are upstairs in our not attic, this is this we are on the third floor and like this, the floor used to be filled with caution

 

Shiloh: be messy okay

 

Shalom: kids will love hanging out here like they used to love

 

Shiloh: whenever they came to a house they would run upstairs to play with the costumes

 

Shasha: tracks and stuff oh my goodness 

 

Shiloh: Yeah I mean 

 

Shalom: we have big mascots like big paw patrol mascots Peppa pig mascots 

 

Shasha: oh my goodness 

 

Shiloh: everything you know that was actually kind of funny

 

Shalom: are you kidding me we had to do a monthly cleanup 

 

Shasha: no like weekly it would be so many costumes that wouldn’t fit on the shelves

 

Shiloh: speaking of costume rooms remember the one like three years ago  small

 

Sinead: we started guys basically when we started the thing is this is our second place when we started onyx together all we had was one closet and we, it was just overflowing with costumes because every single one of our videos contains costumes.

 

Shasha: overflowing

 

Shiloh: I have no idea how all of them fit in there

 

Sinead: it didn’t

 

Shiloh: well I mean it didn’t but we still were able to like you know close the door right but like 

 

Shasha: it spilled out 

 

Sinead: no it was all the time

 

Shasha: we’re not even kidding 

 

Sinead: we’re like you all probably think we’re joking but we’re not 

 

Shiloh: not at all really 

 

Shasha: that’s why um I wouldn’t try having to open and close the door because then everything was spoiled that won’t take hours to clean it back up 

 

Shiloh: yeah man I mean that’s one thing I would not bring back so 

 

Sinead: all right what was your favorite line in ketchup versus mustard

 

Shalom: I’m yellow I’m gold 

 

Shasha: that was easy

 

Sinead: that was so first of all that’s the first line and that’s the most generic one next

 

Shiloh: ketchup stinks I mean it was like I mean

 

Sinead: oh my goodness that’s even worse

 

Shasha: I like “You’ll be looking fuss standing right next to the mustard” that was good

 

Sinead: that was better

 

Shiloh: no no no no no queer posting we all know you’re a fraud I’m the one they want when they want a hotdog 

 

Shasha: that was good that was good What about you Sinead?

 

Sinead: uh wait I gotta think

 

Shalom: wow wow you wrote your song

 

Sinead: I’m trying to think 

 

Shasha: what about it tastes good girl I said are the best type of condiment

 

Sinead: oh yeah 

 

Shasha: you on the shelf still act not anonymous 

 

Sinead: I like that one you know I think me and Shalom co-wrote that line

 

Shalom: we did?

 

Sinead: yeah 

 

Shalom: I didn’t know that

 

Sinead: yeah cause I remember I remember that you saw shelves and I was like okay let me rework this and everything like that so we co-wrote that line um wait what was it?

 

Shalom: did I get credit?

 

Sinead: girl I serve as the best type of condiment and you on the shelf still act not anonymous

 

Shalom: oh I think I wrote the anonymous part yeah 

 

Sinead: yeah anonymous I was like okay let me work this in and then yeah because I was like I like that condiment anonymous it doesn’t even really rhyme but it kind of rhymes you know what I mean 

 

Shasha: it kind of rhymes

 

Sinead: no because you know it’s like think sometimes things don’t have to rhyme but it kind of sounds similar and you still put in a song

 

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Shiloh: to be honest guys I’m kind of hungry right now for like some food fair stuff

 

Shasha: me too

 

Shiloh: you know some hot dogs you know 

 

Shasha: just make him want some hot dogs 

 

Sinead: this is making me want a burger 

 

Shalom: I want a cookie

 

Shasha: a cookie you know we never did a dessert rap battle.

 

Sinead: I think we did a dessert one like ice cream versus

 

Shasha: yeah

 

Sinead: something like that 

 

Shasha: no did we? no we didn’t we didn’t 

 

Sinead: we hadn’t sold the bag on that one 

 

Shasha: yeah we did we even did chips 

 

Shalom: we did?

 

Shasha: we did chips we did chips 

 

Sinead: wait no that was a sweet-salty 

 

Shasha: oh sweet versus salty yeah we never did it 

 

Shalom: oh man 

 

Shasha: what would I have done cake versus cupcake 

 

Shalom: no those are too similar

 

Sinead: it has to be like something like ice cream versus pie or something wait did we do hot versus cold we didn’t even do hot versus cold

 

Shalom: no we did God we did so many videos we have to do

 

Shiloh: wait wait wait wait

 

Sinead: we didn’t have to offer school what costume would have done for that because you should do a costume

 

Shalom: like an ice cream dress an ice cube and like a fire emoji thing

 

Sinead: you’re telling me there’s a costume for the sun?

 

Shalom: yeah 

 

Shasha: no we did skits on hot versus cold we do not

 

Sinead: we never did a rap battle would you guys bring back the rap battles?

 

Shasha: yes 100 percent!

 

Sinead: that’s one thing I would bring back rap battles if we could 

 

Shiloh: yeah okay I typed in versus because you know yeah in our next podcast we have to talk about the many versus we did the many ones 

 

Sinead: uh all the monsters you might guess 

 

Shiloh: yes fourth of July guy, Shiloh versus Shasha

 

Shasha: listen the fourth of July guy is iconic

 

Shalom: wait don’t say anything yet

 

Shasha: all right guys we have so many videos to cover but this is just one of the many we hope you guys enjoyed today’s podcast I know I did you guys?

 

All: oh yeah 

 

Shiloh: I did  as well so you know

 

Shasha: you’re gonna see a whole bunch of crazy behind the scenes and our thoughts on it and also comment below guys what is your favorite line from the ketchup versus mustard 

 

All: yeah yeah 

 

Shasha: all right tell us 

 

Sinead: see you guys in the next podcast 

 

All: bye